How will the new dual-clutch gearbox be SHIFTED?
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How will the new dual-clutch gearbox be SHIFTED?
Will it have paddles like the SMG III, will it be buttons on the steering wheel, or what?
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The only implementations I have seen are from VW and Audi...
http://news.kak.net/modules.php?op=m...rticle&sid=496
I have not seen anything on how Porsche will do theirs... would suspect something along the same line...
http://news.kak.net/modules.php?op=m...rticle&sid=496
I have not seen anything on how Porsche will do theirs... would suspect something along the same line...
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None of our guesses truly matter. We will soon find out the real deal when Porsche unveils the 997. That said, Porsche has shown a conservative streak in the design of the 997 which I think will extend to its interior. This should mean that they will forgo paddle shifters for their current steering wheel mounted button shifters. None the less, I don't hear anyone basing their decisions on buttons versus paddles.
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I think they'll use paddles, FWIW...
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unfortunately it looks like buttons,
(if you look at the new spy shots of the uncovered interior...)
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of course we could get lucky and get what we all hope for, paddles! and those buttons in the pics could just be very stupid stereo controls..,
either way, the shifter will also function as a shifter , a la audi tiptronic.
(if you look at the new spy shots of the uncovered interior...)
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of course we could get lucky and get what we all hope for, paddles! and those buttons in the pics could just be very stupid stereo controls..,
either way, the shifter will also function as a shifter , a la audi tiptronic.
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from what i have read there will be 3 Tranmissions for the 997
1. manual (6 speed?)
2. Tiptronic (i believe seen above) with buttons
3. DSG (or actactually porsches version of it - if the RSR is any indiaction there will be a stick to shift it + paddles)
my 2 cents
1. manual (6 speed?)
2. Tiptronic (i believe seen above) with buttons
3. DSG (or actactually porsches version of it - if the RSR is any indiaction there will be a stick to shift it + paddles)
my 2 cents
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I don't believe the RSR's sequential box is a DSG type system. I was at the Alex Job open house in November and they had a sequential box on the bench that looked the same as a standard GT3 case which wouldn't have room to accomodate the dual clutch setup of a DSG.
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the RSR - tranny is very different - it was just a loose comparision.
the RSR tranny is a racing application (like a quaife gear box, dog gears, etc.) the new DSG (PDK?) gear box is totally different in operation.
they will certinally not be the same as the RSR gear box - as i seriously doupt that even porsche could get away with a Dog box in production.
a better comparision would have been the Audi TT 3.2 - which uses a tip looking gear selector on the console (looks like an slush box selector with +/- manual mode - it also uses paddles behind the steering wheel
the RSR tranny is a racing application (like a quaife gear box, dog gears, etc.) the new DSG (PDK?) gear box is totally different in operation.
they will certinally not be the same as the RSR gear box - as i seriously doupt that even porsche could get away with a Dog box in production.
a better comparision would have been the Audi TT 3.2 - which uses a tip looking gear selector on the console (looks like an slush box selector with +/- manual mode - it also uses paddles behind the steering wheel
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tried out the audi TT 3.2 with DSG the other day, very positive feedback/feeling from the paddles' movement, very tight also, so feels like a videogame ... whatever floats your boat
ferrari's F1 paddles are still the gold standard. especially in carbon or aluminum
ferrari's F1 paddles are still the gold standard. especially in carbon or aluminum
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ferrari's F1 paddles are still the gold standard. especially in carbon or aluminum
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Originally posted by Brett - 1996 C4
Is it the physical form of the paddles that is the gold standard or is it the function of the gearbox itself? I've heard the F1 system itself isn't all that great unless you're driving at speed. I'm hoping the DSG's will finally be a real alternative to a stick.
Is it the physical form of the paddles that is the gold standard or is it the function of the gearbox itself? I've heard the F1 system itself isn't all that great unless you're driving at speed. I'm hoping the DSG's will finally be a real alternative to a stick.
DSG is an even better and more seamless system. - however i hear that DSG's downshifting aint so grand