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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 05:47 AM
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I need a workshop tool which can code replacement stock components, as well as all the basic things from cheaper tools. I have narrowed it down to the Autel MS906BT or a Chinese clone of PIWIS II (my Porsches are 2009 & 2014).

Anyone got any views on this and any experience, particularly of the Chinese PIWIS offerings?
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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There's a whole thread on the Chinese knock off PIWIS -

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/1176128-chinese-piwis-clone.html

I booted it on an old laptop and played around with it - tempted to get the hardware so I can do some coding...
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tj40
There's a whole thread on the Chinese knock off PIWIS -

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...wis-clone.html

I booted it on an old laptop and played around with it - tempted to get the hardware so I can do some coding...
Thanks for that
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 05:21 PM
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look into the fox well 510/520/530 units.

- no laptop needed
- $160 + i think another $50 (for some countries for porsche specific software)
- codes about 90% of what the durmetric Pro does (for 1/3 of the price)
- even codes modules that durmetric pro cant code (i.e. fox well can access + code the steering wheel module) - where traditinoally we would have to hunt down a piwisII for.

based on the large number of fox well threads here.
- dme scan
- obdII code read out
- steering wheel conversion (steering module coding + steering angle sensor calibration) - durmetric pro cannot access
- front module coding (turning side markers to blinkers)
- rear module coding (spoiler lift control)
- side module coding (using the keys to control the windows)
- getting horn to honk when unlocking the car (durmetric pro cant do this)
etc

can all be done via the fox well.

I would start with this unit first unless you absolutely NEED ALL the piwis functionality. cheaper, faster, easier, and off the shelf and ready to go.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by myw
look into the fox well 510/520/530 units.

- no laptop needed
- $160 + i think another $50 (for some countries for porsche specific software)
- codes about 90% of what the durmetric Pro does (for 1/3 of the price)
- even codes modules that durmetric pro cant code (i.e. fox well can access + code the steering wheel module) - where traditinoally we would have to hunt down a piwisII for.

based on the large number of fox well threads here.
- dme scan
- obdII code read out
- steering wheel conversion (steering module coding + steering angle sensor calibration) - durmetric pro cannot access
- front module coding (turning side markers to blinkers)
- rear module coding (spoiler lift control)
- side module coding (using the keys to control the windows)
- getting horn to honk when unlocking the car (durmetric pro cant do this)
etc

can all be done via the fox well.

I would start with this unit first unless you absolutely NEED ALL the piwis functionality. cheaper, faster, easier, and off the shelf and ready to go.
That's for the breakdown. I have a Durametric Pro, but I realize it won't help code the steering wheel for when I put in a 991/Macan wheel. Was contemplating the PIWIS clones. I'll give the Foxwell a try before doing that.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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is your 997.2 steering wheel module new? if its a used module (or if u already have a 997.2) then you will have no problem re the fox well.

I have read in one case that the foxwell couldnt program a brand new steering wheel module (but i am not convinced it wasnt user error), despite the fact that that the user admits that the rear wiper module was successfully coded to function AND the steering angle sensor calibration was successfully.
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That's for the breakdown. I have a Durametric Pro, but I realize it won't help code the steering wheel for when I put in a 991/Macan wheel. Was contemplating the PIWIS clones. I'll give the Foxwell a try before doing that.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by myw
is your 997.2 steering wheel module new? if its a used module (or if u already have a 997.2) then you will have no problem re the fox well.

I have read in one case that the foxwell couldnt program a brand new steering wheel module (but i am not convinced it wasnt user error), despite the fact that that the user admits that the rear wiper module was successfully coded to function AND the steering angle sensor calibration was successfully.
I have a 997.2, so the correct steering module is in there. My concern was coding multifunction to work (since I have a non-MF wheel stock).
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SergeSF
I have a 997.2, so the correct steering module is in there. My concern was coding multifunction to work (since I have a non-MF wheel stock).
easyPeasy. itll work np based on the videos I have seen with the fox well unit + 997MF enabling. i am sure u can find them via google
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 09:05 PM
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I’ve got the PIWIS 2 clone and running the OS on a VM. Works great if you don’t mind lugging around the unit and a laptop. It’s not the most intuitive of interfaces but it’s not terribly difficult either. Once you get used to navigating Around and figuring out where things are it gets pretty easier. Everything is organized by its appropriate parts group. I’ve both troubleshot a recoded a few things and haven’t had any issues. I’m happy with it.
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i recently purchased an Autel MP808TS. I was wondering if i can pull a DME report with this tool. Just not sure where to look on the scan tool for it
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16
i recently purchased an Autel MP808TS. I was wondering if i can pull a DME report with this tool. Just not sure where to look on the scan tool for it
update, yes.. you can pull the DME info on that tool.
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 11:48 PM
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I think I'm getting a foxwell myself. I just did my first DIY oil change. What is the main difference between the 510/520/530? Or is it all one model. I have an 09 4s.
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Bump, if anyone could chime in
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