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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:03 PM
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I promised I'd report back so I'm here to officially admit I'm an idiot. Now ... In my defense, I've lived long enough and seen enough things to generally have the answers. But with that comes paralysis. I saw clamps that I didn't want to cut off. And I froze.

I got the car back on the lift this afternoon and true to offered advice the oetiker clamps were not tight and the hoses pulled off easily. I can now see why some people have trouble with these hoses popping off spontaneously. That will become an obsession when I put the mufflers back on!!!

Thanks again to everyone who chimed in here.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 01:23 AM
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I promised I'd report back so I'm here to officially admit I'm an idiot. Now ... In my defense, I've lived long enough and seen enough things to generally have the answers. But with that comes paralysis. I saw clamps that I didn't want to cut off. And I froze.

I got the car back on the lift this afternoon and true to offered advice the oetiker clamps were not tight and the hoses pulled off easily. I can now see why some people have trouble with these hoses popping off spontaneously. That will become an obsession when I put the mufflers back on!!!

Thanks again to everyone who chimed in here.
So, are you going back in with hose clamps? When I've used them over S/S braided, I was taught not to over torque. I put them on, and then pull hard till I "feel" the right torque. Yes, overtighting does damage the braid. I've also used heat shrink (with success) over the hose clamp (mostly for looks but it does add some protection as well)

Hope to drive with you guys soon, Cheers, Mike
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 02:14 AM
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Per a previous suggestion I simply pulled on the hoses and was delighted (and a bit appalled) to find they slid right off. Likewise they slid back on with tension. I had debated putting new oetiker clamps on but there is damned little space to work in those two areas!!! I'll need to apologize profusely should they pop off in the future but at this point I think all is fine.

FWIW the plugs (with 40K miles) were in fantastic shape. Without anti seize we all know they tend to creak when being removed but that was only the case for two of the six.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 11:26 AM
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Per a previous suggestion I simply pulled on the hoses and was delighted (and a bit appalled) to find they slid right off. Likewise they slid back on with tension. I had debated putting new oetiker clamps on but there is damned little space to work in those two areas!!! I'll need to apologize profusely should they pop off in the future but at this point I think all is fine.

FWIW the plugs (with 40K miles) were in fantastic shape. Without anti seize we all know they tend to creak when being removed but that was only the case for two of the six.
That's great info and great to hear for you. I am finding that the lack of working space is often the hardest part of working on this car.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 12:27 PM
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Those valves added just enough mass (volume) to make sneaking the mufflers off and back onto the car more difficult. Yeah ... Working space. But after you've done it enough times (3 hours total including the center lock wheels to replace the plugs) tasks on these cars seem to get easier. And quite enjoyable 8)

When I was much younger I worked in a garage. I'd be tired near the end of the day and when a car arrived for brakes I'd have a hard time getting started. I've got to clean up to get into the car. I've got to position it on the lift. I've got to get the wheels off. I've got to yank drums and calipers. I've got to remove wheel bearings to free the rotors. I've got to get things cycling on the brake lathe. And all the other steps. And it's just over an hour to quitting time. Viewing it that way the job could become unbearable. The lead mechanic (Pat) knew me well. When he saw me get into this funk he'd simply say Don't sweat the small stuff. There are still times I need to remind myself of those wise words!!!
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