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Old 01-03-2019, 08:36 PM
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Here is a very interesting modification to the 991.1 series as of today, but it will apply to the 997.1 and .2 as well. Take a look at the videos and the following pictures.

https://www.pca.org/news/2019-01-01/...-hybrid-system



VONNEN is putting together the best of both worlds, for our driving pleasure. Also, it corrects the natural imbalance of the 911 by placing the battery at the front of the car. Still pricey at this moment, but I suspect that will go down as demands and technology evolves.

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This is kinda neat. One thing I didn't see addressed is the need for additional cooling. Sure there is cooling for the motor and battery of the new system but what about additional cooling for the rest of the drivetrain? On a 997.2 generation base Carrera there is an increase of 50% in output power. Surely the engine itself will need additional cooling as well as the gearbox. Would be interesting to see how this setup would work with a serious track session (not just a lap or two)
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Any estimates on costs? While I don't think that this would violate California smog rules, any thoughts?
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The cost is reported to be ~$75k. For that price you have many more options including a new car.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...hybrid-system/

There was also a recent PCAHQ video about this:


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I got to drive a 991.1 base Carrera on this video

It was impressive. I've driven Porsches with aftermarket turbos and supercharges. This was instant on power and very manageable. Would have loved to see what it was like on the track. $75K is steep, no doubt. I'm sure, much like other technology, once the price comes down, it may be a decent alternative. Interesting that the battery was the most expensive part of the package.
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Originally Posted by Fined
This is kinda neat. One thing I didn't see addressed is the need for additional cooling. Sure there is cooling for the motor and battery of the new system but what about additional cooling for the rest of the drivetrain? On a 997.2 generation base Carrera there is an increase of 50% in output power. Surely the engine itself will need additional cooling as well as the gearbox. Would be interesting to see how this setup would work with a serious track session (not just a lap or two)
The boost is limited to 10 seconds..... not enough for a full lap.
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Originally Posted by yvesvidal
The boost is limited to 10 seconds..... not enough for a full lap.
I'm not sure what your point is. That it doesn't matter how the system performs on track?
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Test drives are in:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-hybrid-drive/

https://news.yahoo.com/view-photos-v...070000376.html

https://www.motor1.com/reviews/34592...d-first-drive/

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...nd-first-drive

https://www.motortrend.com/news/vonn...totype-review/
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There's too much margin in this conversion. If Tesla can build an entire car for way less to equal that entire amount then one might as well buy the Tesla.

If we can drag our ice engines for 5-8 more years into the future by that time, economical and much better battery and power solutions will be available.

Instead of the effects of peak oil we'll more likely see the problems of economy of scale and fuel costs will rise not because of scarcity but novelty.



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