Your Other Car... Get the same maintenence attention?
#48
Three Wheelin'
#51
I have a pair of E46 M3s with higher mileage on them so my low mileage 997 seems like a walk in the park compared to those maintenance wise
#52
Rennlist Member
Yes. I keep track of 4 of 5 of my vehicles and one that is in the pipeline. I don't track the maintenance history of the F150 like I do my other cars - 997.2, 1980 SC, 2013 A6 and Mustang. I do this mostly just to make sure I don't forget something. I also track the cost per mile, but don't include the fuel.
#53
Rennlist Member
Same maintenance attention? Yeah, pretty much. My 997.2 doesn't require much at only 32K in 9 years; the PO did not drive it much. But, I drive around it 4000 miles per year in seven non-winter months. I follow my German independent shop's recommendations which are mainly based on mileage and fluid testing, not time as the dealers call for. My Ford is getting its oil changed in two weeks; it will have been one year but only 2700 miles. So, yeah, both get at least annual oil changes with synthetic oil. I have anything that breaks repaired promptly on both cars. Tires are a big difference. I replaced decent tires on my 997 at 6 years because they were getting dated and, I think, harder. The Ford is still rolling on its originals from 2011 and will keep on until they are shot. I will flush the brake fluid and coolant at the next oil change for both cars. I changed perfectly good OEM brake pads on my 997 to Hawk Performance ceramic pads in my quest for less and more manageable brake dust. The Porsche gets cleaned more often and more thoroughly, but again, I drive it more. That's my long answer to your short question.
#54
Three Wheelin'
Other car is a Land Rover. Ive done some maintenance on it myself but its a pain in the ***. The 997 is soooo much easier to work on. The 997 requires precision maintenance. The LR requires a sledge hammer and creative vocabulary.
1. Oil changes in the 997 are dead simple. The LR requires you unbolt a heavy metal skid plate. (However I do wish my 997 had air suspensions like the LR to raise it up when doing oil changes :-)
2. I would consider Land Rover owners a fairly passionate crew. Lots of off-roaders. However the support and documentation from RL is 100x better than the Rover forums.
3. The LR is a great truck but like the 997 it has a few standard issues (lower control arms, air suspension). The projects on my 997 have always been rewarding. The projects on my LR have always sucked.
- I rebuilt the compressor for the air suspension. That took 2 days and lots of scraped up fingers. The brits are famous for using magic bolt locations and mismatched bolt sizes.
- Ive also tried to track down a cold start squeak for 12 months. On the 997 you can identify any accessory making a noise in 10 minutes. Not so on a Land Rover. You cant access the accessories without taking the fan and housing off, which is a pain. After replacing the alternator, both belt pulleys...it still squeaks. I gave up.
- All Land Rovers blow through lower control arm bushings. I wanted to do it myself but I would need to buy all new tools. The torque required for Land Rover wheel bearings are something like 250lbs and the bolts seize up requiring an air hammer to get them out.
Bottom line, DIY maintenance on some cars is false economy. Not so on the 997.
1. Oil changes in the 997 are dead simple. The LR requires you unbolt a heavy metal skid plate. (However I do wish my 997 had air suspensions like the LR to raise it up when doing oil changes :-)
2. I would consider Land Rover owners a fairly passionate crew. Lots of off-roaders. However the support and documentation from RL is 100x better than the Rover forums.
3. The LR is a great truck but like the 997 it has a few standard issues (lower control arms, air suspension). The projects on my 997 have always been rewarding. The projects on my LR have always sucked.
- I rebuilt the compressor for the air suspension. That took 2 days and lots of scraped up fingers. The brits are famous for using magic bolt locations and mismatched bolt sizes.
- Ive also tried to track down a cold start squeak for 12 months. On the 997 you can identify any accessory making a noise in 10 minutes. Not so on a Land Rover. You cant access the accessories without taking the fan and housing off, which is a pain. After replacing the alternator, both belt pulleys...it still squeaks. I gave up.
- All Land Rovers blow through lower control arm bushings. I wanted to do it myself but I would need to buy all new tools. The torque required for Land Rover wheel bearings are something like 250lbs and the bolts seize up requiring an air hammer to get them out.
Bottom line, DIY maintenance on some cars is false economy. Not so on the 997.
#55
Other car is a 2011 E90 M3 with DCT transmission. I find that car better for around town and low speed enjoyment, the 997 is a more enjoyable car at higher speeds..Ironically maintenance costs run slightly higher on the M3. But knock on wood, both so far have been pretty reliable. Also feel grateful to own 2 really fun to drive cars...
#56
Instructor
My other car, and my other (long term) project: this looks fairly stock but much has changed (underneath) - in terms of chassis, suspension, brakes, engine...) and it needs plenty of care and preventative maintenance for road trips and track days. As someone wrote above, it's great to have a couple of fun cars in the garage!
#58
Yes for me all cars receive the same amount of attention as the 911. Wife's Toyota Camry gets oil change every 5k although guide says 10k per oil change, all service is up to date. I take it to Toyota specialists though, dealers are complete rip off. Just added a new Lexus GX460 and plan to do the same. Heck I even keep up the maintenance for my 1995 Honda Accord which my dad gave me. My theory is, all of my cars are workhorses, reliable and serves us well. They're all part of the family and therefore deserve the same amount of care.
#59
Burning Brakes
Just replaced my Toyota Sequoia which I had for 10 years and had to replace the rear hatch pull, got gummy, I'm in Texas. I never even had to get the brakes done and it had 80k miles on it. Replaced one belt and replaced tires once at 60k miles. Switched it for a Toyota 4Runner and expecting the same bulletproof engineering. When I go get groceries I'm gonna look pretty kick *** like Arnold Schwarzenegger or something, a bit of overkill for my purposes but whatever