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Old 05-08-2018, 01:47 PM
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What are some of the symptoms of a car that's been tracked ? I am looking at a PDK with no over revs above Range 1. In fact only a few hundred ignitions in R1. But then all of a sudden the seller divulges there was another set of larger wheels and tires and I'm thinking "not for snow because it hasn't snowed here since Al Gore invented the internet and global warming".

All control arms also worn on a 35k mile car - seems premature too.
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They needed larger wheels are tires to transport Hillary around to get poor people to register to vote since she got chubby.....
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Answer:
Go to Google and type What are some of the symptoms of a car that's been tracked
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What do you mean by CA are worn out and how did you determine they are worn out?

What size wheels and tires?

Signs of track use are tires, excessive paint pitting on the rocker and fender wells, wear on the steering wheel's 9 and 3 o'clock positions, wear at the seat bolsters, wear on the carpet (since most of them require you to remove your floormats) and more modified suspension components.

IMO, owners who drive their cars on the track tend to be more honest and more meticulous about their cars.
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Originally Posted by DesmoSD
IMO, owners who drive their cars on the track tend to be more honest and more meticulous about their cars.
This is nearly always the caseand is why tracked cars have some of the best service records.

Realize, OP, there is a difference between a 'tracked' car and a car that's been to a half dozen DEs. The latter is basically still a street car IMO.

In addition to the above, check for 'clag' or ***** of rubber in the wheel well, in the underbody tray, stuck between the edges where plastic parts meet. That stuff gets everywhere and is difficult to clean out 100%,
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Ive heard that red calipers tend to color fade from the heat at the track. I dont know how true that is
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I heard there are certain cars you can focus on to keep from getting a car that has been tracked. 1996 Buick Roadmaster springs to mind

A Porsche 911 just may have been beaten within an inch of its life. Not worth the risk.
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I saw a GT3 on the showroom floor of a dealer that had obvious heavy track usage. The windshield was pitted, headlights looked off and there was rubber in the wheel wells. Overall, it took about two seconds to notice that this car had been used in the way it was intended. If you don't notice any obvious signs and are happy with the car then I wouldn't worry about it.
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Thanks guys and I did google it and searched the forums before asking.
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Originally Posted by Fined
I heard there are certain cars you can focus on to keep from getting a car that has been tracked. 1996 Buick Roadmaster springs to mind

A Porsche 911 just may have been beaten within an inch of its life. Not worth the risk.
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A lot of people put different rims on - you don't say what size rims it has - if they are 18 then possible / likely it was just for looks.

If you have 19 inch rims I would say definitely for looks! I don't know anyone who puts on heavier 20 inch rims to go to the track!

Of course it's not uncommon for people to take mods off and sell the car stock - ask if there were any other mods to the car, if you want to be cheeky ask if they are on Rennlist and what is their user name and then troll their postings!!
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Originally Posted by nwGTS
This is nearly always the caseand is why tracked cars have some of the best service records.

Realize, OP, there is a difference between a 'tracked' car and a car that's been to a half dozen DEs. The latter is basically still a street car IMO.

In addition to the above, check for 'clag' or ***** of rubber in the wheel well, in the underbody tray, stuck between the edges where plastic parts meet. That stuff gets everywhere and is difficult to clean out 100%,
Yeah, driven at some DE's is not an issue. A cup car that has spent every minute on a track is different. Also agree on the rubber, just check and see if there are large pieces of rubber or rubber on the underside.
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Originally Posted by bronz
Ive heard that red calipers tend to color fade from the heat at the track. I dont know how true that is
great indicator here as well.
I was at a Porsche Driving Experience late last year and all the 911s’ and Caymans’ calipers were maroon and had clearly been pushed hard. A good sign of a need for better cooling
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It is interesting how most of us would avoid a tracked car, but yet that is what these cars are designed to do. We also love to read threads from folks that do track their cars. We are also told to take it to the track if we want to learn to drive fast, or whenever we have the urge to drive fast. I guess if I was going to track mine I would expect to find it hard to sell and probably get a whole lot less for it. I suppose the best thing to do if one wants to track is buy a used one from a member that has tracked theirs, at least you'll know it was well taken care of. As others have said, those are some the the best cared for 911s mechanically.
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I also prefer a person who has done driving events in their cars - almost guarantees the fluids were changed and I agree most owners tend to be a lot more in the DIY mindset. My $0.02.
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