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mffarrell 04-22-2017 06:50 PM
Did the kit come with a pilot bearing?

MrFixedIt 04-22-2017 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by mffarrell (Post 14130273)
Did the kit come with a pilot bearing?
It did come with a new throw out bearing. I another picture to the post.

88mmm 04-22-2017 10:14 PM
I'm glad you took advantage. I doubt it's remanufactured. Where would they get the used disks to mass produced them. There were not that many GT2 clutches to begin with. Pilot bearing comes installed in the LUK flywheel which is the OEM supplier for our car.

JasonAndreas 04-23-2017 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by 88mmm (Post 14130620)
I doubt it's remanufactured.
The giveaway that something is not kosher is all the corrosion and scruffing on the clutch discs. When you get them brand new they do not look anything like that. When I return to the states later this summer I can take some photos. The pressure plate was also turned on a lathe which you should never see with a brand new friction surface that is ground flat when originally manufactured.

Originally Posted by 88mmm (Post 14130620)
Where would they get the used disks to mass produced them. There were not that many GT2 clutches to begin with.
You can try cross referencing the part numbers. The new friction surface that was riveted onto the old disc can probably/hopefully support the clamping pressure required. But GT2 as used here is just useless marketing term no different than an aftermarket vendor selling something as OEM.

mffarrell 04-23-2017 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by JasonAndreas (Post 14131502)
The giveaway that something is not kosher is all the corrosion and scruffing on the clutch discs. When you get them brand new they do not look anything like that. When I return to the states later this summer I can take some photos. The pressure plate was also turned on a lathe which you should never see with a brand new friction surface that is ground flat when originally manufactured.



You can try cross referencing the part numbers. The new friction surface that was riveted onto the old disc can probably/hopefully support the clamping pressure required. But GT2 as used here is just useless marketing term no different than an aftermarket vendor selling something as OEM.
I was going to pull the trigger, but it doesn't pass the smell test for me. I called RA and they said the kits were new. I questioned them about the corrosion on the clutch disc. They said they would exchange it. I said two people have purchased with this issue. They said maybe they have been in inventory for a long time. It just does not add up. I have purchased many Sachs clutch kits over the years, and they all has very shiny cadmium plating look.

88mmm 04-23-2017 06:19 PM
To each there own. These are brand new parts. I called LUK to verify. If they were used or reman they would still have the Porsche part numbers. The little bit of corrosion you are seeing is from the adhesive on the paper packaging and the fact that they were likely sitting for a long time. Same kit is available from plenty of other sellers.

mffarrell 04-26-2017 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by 88mmm (Post 14132042)
To each there own. These are brand new parts. I called LUK to verify. If they were used or reman they would still have the Porsche part numbers. The little bit of corrosion you are seeing is from the adhesive on the paper packaging and the fact that they were likely sitting for a long time. Same kit is available from plenty of other sellers.
88mmm Just wondering how you are liking the feel of using a GT2 kit with an unsprung clutch disc?

Any noticeable differences in shifting or the feel of the clutch?

Thanks!

88mmm 04-27-2017 11:29 AM
I notice a slight difference in the engagement especially starting off in first or backing up. It's a bit more abrupt. I imagine after driving a while I will no longer notice. Not that the boosted setup has good feel in the same situations anyway. I'm happy with the setup for sure.

mffarrell 04-27-2017 12:29 PM
Did you have the RMS replaced while the flywheel was removed?

MrFixedIt 04-27-2017 12:32 PM
I believe the abrupt engagement is a by-product of not having a shiny clutch disc, or you are rushing because you are mentally preoccupied with what you are going to buy with the $500 you saved. I am going to polish my clutch disc before installing as well as spend my savings in advance. I anticipate stock clutch feel...

mffarrell 04-27-2017 12:54 PM
Are you planning to change your RMS while the tranny is out?

Kevinmacd 04-30-2017 08:30 PM
The grabing abrutly is probably due to a clutch surface thats not broken in yet!

88mmm 04-30-2017 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by MrFixedIt (Post 14141795)
I believe the abrupt engagement is a by-product of not having a shiny clutch disc, or you are rushing because you are mentally preoccupied with what you are going to buy with the $500 you saved. I am going to polish my clutch disc before installing as well as spend my savings in advance. I anticipate stock clutch feel...
Not sure what your problem is but if you want to know I took my daughter on an awesome backpacking trip in the ADKs with the extra money. The gt2 disk is unsprung hence the slightly quicker grab. Stock disk is sprung.

No I didn't replace the rms. Looked fine.

MrFixedIt 04-30-2017 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by 88mmm (Post 14149387)
Not sure what your problem is but if you want to know I took my daughter on an awesome backpacking trip in the ADKs with the extra money. The gt2 disk is unsprung hence the slightly quicker grab. Stock disk is sprung.

No I didn't replace the rms. Looked fine.
Sorry the sarcasm didn't make it through. I was kidding. I am with you, I bought the deal as well. I think it is money well saved. But your making me look bad spending you savings on your daughter, mine is going towards a rear sway bar.

Keep us posted on how the clutch breaks in.

:cheers:

"02996ttx50 05-01-2017 12:34 AM
there shouldn't be any discernible difference in "feel", engagement, or otherwise btw the oem sprung vs the gt2 unsprung disc.

just break it in like you would any new clutch ( gently ) and if anything feels "different"? then it could well be, that something is.

the oem clutch doesn't ( shouldn't ) "grab".

btw good question on the rms. for the +40 bucks while its staring you in the face? why not.


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