Th Dude

I've been longing for a pre '75 911 to turn into a hotrod for the last 18 months or so. The itch comes and goes, but always seems to return with a vengeance.
I've recently located a perfect hot-rod candidate in an extremely rare factory color. However, I would need to sell my '03 X50 to finance the hot rod idea.
Sooooo....I'm strongly considering placing my thoroughly loved and sorted, highly optioned turbo up for sale. I would prefer to sell my Porsche to another enthusiast.
I've drawn up a draft for an ad should I decide to commit to this madness.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this initial draft and let me know if it seems thorough without being overly verbose.
You're also welcome to chime in and tell me how crazy I am for considering this, as my indy mechanic already has.


SPPCNA 669 Porsche Cars North America
Pro Forma Invoice - 2087040

UAG Fairfield CP,LLC. Page : 1
475 COMMERCE DRIVE Date : 6/06/12
FAIRFIELD CT 06825 Dealer : 1879








ORD REF NO : 2087040 ORDER TYPE : POVCTF
VIN : WP0AB29993S686320 ORDER STATUS: CSTPOV

Retail
2003 911 Turbo Coupe 996 420 Price
BASE Porsche Base Model 116,200.00
58 Polar Silver Metallic 2,245.00
58 Polar Silver Metallic 0.00
EX Metropol Blue Full Leather 0.00
342 Heated Front Seats 410.00
M6F Metropol Blue Floor Mat 115.00
XME Rear Ctr Cons Painted Extr Clr 730.00
XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest 220.00
XTG Inner Sill Parts/Release-Lthr 585.00
X50 Turbo Power Kit 17,880.00
X54 Stainless Steel Exhaust Pipes 765.00
Y06 Alum/Lthr Shifter/Brake Handle 885.00
P78 Sport Seats w/Full Leather Int 0.00
XSA Sport Seats Painted To Match 1,495.00
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Total with Options $ 141,530.00
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DSTCHG Destination Charge 765.00
GASGUZ Gas Guzzler 1,300.00
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Total Charges $ 2,065.00
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Total Order $ 143,595.00





2003 Polar Silver PORSCHE 911 Turbo: 6-speed manual, X50, X73, Sport Seats, RS 4.0 Clutch, LSD, Welded Coolant fittings


Maintenance

I am a 15 year Porsche owner, enthusiast, and Rennlist member. Since purchasing this vehicle in mid-2012, I’ve had a Major Service performed that included flushing and replacing each and every fluid/filter:
Coolant Flush
Brake Fluid
Transmission fluid
Differential oil
Oil change
Air Filter
Cabin Air/Pollen Filter
Fuel Filter

New Oil Pressure Sender
New Power Steering Reservoir

Any and all rusted or seized bolts were replaced.
New Heat Shields were installed
New Undertrays were installed

ALL THREE Radiators were replaced
ALL Coolant hoses and lines were replaced
Water pump replaced
Coolant expansion tank and cap replaced with new factory updated parts

All ignition components have been replaced:
New Alternator (~2,000 miles ago)
New Starter (~2,000 miles ago)
New AGM Battery (~2,000 miles ago)
New MAF (~2,000 miles ago)
New Spark Plugs (1500 miles ago)
New 997 Coils (10,000 miles ago)
ALL O2 sensors replaced
New tappet solenoid brackets

*ALL EIGHT coolant fittings have been WELDED. This is a major plus for the otherwise bullet proof and well proven Le Mans winning engine.


Genuine Porsche Upgrades Include:
*Porsche Motorsports “997 Cup” LSD
*Porsche GT3RS Clutch - 964RS LWFW/997GT3RS 4.0l Disc/764 PP
*Porsche factory Sport Suspension (including motor mounts) – option “X73”
New Porsche factory SIGLA windshield (crystal clear)
Porsche European version clear sidemarkers (also have original DOT orange markers)
Porsche factory GT2 wheels (1/2” wider in front, 1” wider rears) perfect stance while maintaining stock look – UBER RARE)
Porsche 997 Transmission mount
Porsche GT2 Lower Control Arms
Porsche GT3 rear sway bar
Silver Porsche hood crest

Highest Quality Non-Porsche Upgrades include:
Europipe “Quiet” exhaust (OE exhaust included in sale)
Numeric billet shifter
UMW(1.2 bar) tune for X50 *w/datalogger software*
UMW wastegate kit 1.0 bar
Billet Diverter Valves
RUF aluminum pedals
Tarett Drop Links w/dust boots
Silver coated amber turn signal bulbs (eliminates yellow reflection in the headlight)
Rear wiper delete

The vehicle now has just over 102,000 miles.

Most recently (Nov. 2015) the oil, spark plugs, rear brake pads/rotors, and cabin air filter were serviced.

EVERYTHING on this car works exactly as it should. This German masterpiece runs like a Swiss watch.

The car is located, and available for inspection, in Ojai - California - 93023.

Atrox

You have a well sorted car, that I can guarantee will be sorely missed if you unload. Just look at RMC, he sold an immaculate one only to be hunting for another. He wanted to be magnum pi.

Nico911

I don't know man, old 911 are fun but has nothing to do with our more modern cars.

race911

Pretty much. I love what I have, but no way no how at today's stupid prices would I keep the '73 in front of the others. (My stupid project would be stuffing the 996 Turbo engine into the 993 C4S, with all the suspension, etc. from the 993 "RS.")

Back to the OP--how many early 911s do you have seat time in?

993GT

don't do it...
if you 'have to', at least get a 1976.5+ galvanized chassis

911mhawk

Great ad and description.
What's the price?
Don't do it, you already have a hot rod that will smoke most rides and do it in comfort.
Many "hot rods" get old driving on a regular basis.
You have spent a lot to make yours enjoyable for a while without much more to spend.
If you do sellout, ask the buyer to ok posting the price you got.

Despite the above, I could understand a part trade for a nice 73rs clone with a 3.6 or 3.8

Freddie Two Bs

I think the big mistake would be paying a big premium on the 73 car on account of the rare factory color. Once you go the hot rod route nobody's ever gonna care which color it came out of the factory. Better to buy a solid chassis in whatever random color and paint it to your liking. Obviously if you were going a full resto with numbers matching, the opposite would hold.

Freddie Two Bs

Oh and I think the bit about the coolant lines "fast becoming a common problem for all these cars" or whatever the wording is completely false and extremely misleading so I strongly recommend to remove it.

rmc1148

Wrong again atrox but thanks for thinking of me. I am not looking for a 996tt unless its exactly what I have in mind= personal tastes in options color etc that I doubt will come up. I would buy a high mile beater/grocery getter if it fell in my lap. I say go for it Dude but agree its not worth paying a premium for color if your going to go all out with mods. Other than what I commend you on for the great maintenance your car would be fairly easy to replace.

"02996ttx50

i've seen this car up close and personal and watched its coolant lines go. but then i was leading up that hill fortunately. but i also would take exception to the characterization of coolant line failure "fast becoming a problem common to all mezger engine 911's" but then at 135k miles, i haven't been a victim of that, so those that have would naturally have a different perspective.

i think you'd be crazy to sell it, but only because i have seen it! but, whoever gets it will undoubtedly be landing one of the most maintained and well sorted x50 cars w over 100k miles that has managed to retain its stock appearance, if not the "stock" performance levels. the mods are perfectly suited to the car.

if you do,.. well? GL w the sale! i think you'd be nuts. hah!

Th Dude

I want to be Steve McQueen.

True.

We all have a dream.
I haven't had the opportunity to drive an older 911. My indy recommended I do before making this decision. Sounds like you agree.

In California, pre-76 cars are smog exempt and hence a bit easier to hot-rod out. But I get what you're saying, Rob.


73rs clone would be quite ideal. I haven't settled on a price.
I think I'm on my way to being talked out of this madness.


Thanks for the input, Rick. A little dose of logic is helpful right now.

ok, done.

Thanks, rmc.

Thanks, McQueen.
It was my hope and intention in starting this thread that one of two things would happen...
1) I get talked off this ledge.
2) Someone offers to buy my car.

I feel like I'm now a few steps away from the ledge.
I think I need to find a local with an early car to let me drive it and burst this fantasy bubble once and for all.
Thanks, again, to all for the input.

rmc1148

I wouldn't say go for it if it wasn't for the reason I have seen other posts where it sounds like the older 911s really intrigue you. The smart choice is to keep your car but sometimes the crazy thing needs addressed lol.

Th Dude

At first I was in love the 356's. Simple, clean, classic lines and minimal tech. It turns out the minimal tech=minimal performance, minimal safetey, etc.
Then, I started looking at the 911's...about 3-4 years too late for the ones that truly tickle my fancy. 3-4 years ago you could still get a '74 euro carrera for $60k.
Lately, I've been looking at the hot-rod angle. 2500 lbs., 300HP, air-cooled, normally aspirated glory. Jack Olsen's car is a thing of beauty.

Th Dude

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"02996ttx50

YES! don't do it man! my 993 as fun as it was? was a 275 hp go kart with tailwag to DIE for and i still "play" mcqueen daily on mulholland!

seriously.. you'll ( i would, anyway..) regret going a/c unless it was a SECOND 911. i mean, they are gorgeous, classic, and all that good stuff. but ours beats them ( a/c older 911's ) in every way and according to all here the 96T WILL be a "classic" "someday" i'm still waiting .. but ya get my drift!

( please man.. you give 996 turbo owners a good name lol cheers )

ADD: unless you grab a "singer" for 200k LOL. then all bets are off