Turbo tires... I couldn't do it...
#61
Carlo needs to read this book...
#62
switching back to the tire topic, the Falken RT615K ONLY comes in GT2 sizes, they don't make a 295/30.
http://www.falkentire.com/tires/car-...is-rt615k-tire
Rob, have you run 235s or 245s up front? They are about the same height at 25.5 and 25.6", but the 245 is wider (9.1" vs. 8.7").
http://www.falkentire.com/tires/car-...is-rt615k-tire
Rob, have you run 235s or 245s up front? They are about the same height at 25.5 and 25.6", but the 245 is wider (9.1" vs. 8.7").
#63
Carlo needs to read this book...
Poorly Made in China: An Insider's Account of the China Production Game: Paul Midler: 9780470928073: Amazon.com: Books
Poorly Made in China: An Insider's Account of the China Production Game: Paul Midler: 9780470928073: Amazon.com: Books
You think they made it to moon by accident? Have you even been to China?
You need to read a book, or even just a news article, about post war industrial production in Japan.
#64
Really? Show me one that states the rises were nearly identical. Japan was war torn after WWII and had no choice but to do exactly as the Allies wished. China to this day hasn't gone through what Japan went through during and after WWII. Japan's rise didn't lead to cities sitting empty, massive pollution and the majority of the population continuing to live in poverty.
Near exact similarities!
Wrong wrong and wrong.
China hasn't sent a manned flight around the moon. Only unmanned, and almost 50 years AFTER the NASA landed a manned spacecraft ON the moon.
China doesn't have a space station. They are "planning" to put one in orbit in 2020, but planning and doing are two different things.
China also didn't design and build their own ballistic missiles. They took Soviet designs and reverse engineered them, and later purchased nuclear technology directly from the Soviets.
Since you clearly didn't before, you can read all about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_space_program
Manufacturing defects or design flaws in a handful of products isn't the same as all Chinese tires sucking.
Face it, Chinese brands are simply second rate.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/4/1...-Suck-7719697/
Pull some more crap out of your butt so I can prove you wrong again....
Near exact similarities!
Wrong wrong and wrong.
China hasn't sent a manned flight around the moon. Only unmanned, and almost 50 years AFTER the NASA landed a manned spacecraft ON the moon.
China doesn't have a space station. They are "planning" to put one in orbit in 2020, but planning and doing are two different things.
China also didn't design and build their own ballistic missiles. They took Soviet designs and reverse engineered them, and later purchased nuclear technology directly from the Soviets.
Since you clearly didn't before, you can read all about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_space_program
Manufacturing defects or design flaws in a handful of products isn't the same as all Chinese tires sucking.
Face it, Chinese brands are simply second rate.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/4/1...-Suck-7719697/
Pull some more crap out of your butt so I can prove you wrong again....
As I wrote earlier, China tapped Soviet talent to aid their rocket programs just the same way the USA tapped German scientists to aid theirs.
Yes, all Chinese tires suck and all those millions of cars over there driving around on them are all crashing all the time from defective tires.
And I will ask again, have you even been to China?
#65
#67
what are you guys taking about about? if we need a rocket that works, we buy it from what "used" to be referred to as the "USSR". meet the new boss, same as the old boss. NASA was created by our government importing ***** because we liked their V2's!. are you people stupid? or just merely uninformed? it's ok. it happens.
oh, if only chinese tires were our biggest best problems lol. that's NOTHING! its just CHEAPER to make stuff at prison camp wages ( read communist ) wages. wtf do you think they are "DOING" here?
giving "us" raises?? oh f*ck it. lets just raise a toast to globalization, shall we?
oh, if only chinese tires were our biggest best problems lol. that's NOTHING! its just CHEAPER to make stuff at prison camp wages ( read communist ) wages. wtf do you think they are "DOING" here?
giving "us" raises?? oh f*ck it. lets just raise a toast to globalization, shall we?
#68
Running stock GT2 tire and wheel sizes...235/40 and 315/30...more front tire would be nice, but I'd probably want it to be on a 9/9.5" wheel
switching back to the tire topic, the Falken RT615K ONLY comes in GT2 sizes, they don't make a 295/30.
http://www.falkentire.com/tires/car-...is-rt615k-tire
Rob, have you run 235s or 245s up front? They are about the same height at 25.5 and 25.6", but the 245 is wider (9.1" vs. 8.7").
http://www.falkentire.com/tires/car-...is-rt615k-tire
Rob, have you run 235s or 245s up front? They are about the same height at 25.5 and 25.6", but the 245 is wider (9.1" vs. 8.7").
#69
#70
Ok, let's back up a few steps here. You clearly cannot admit to being wrong about ANYTHING. Over the 8 months that I've been here it's obvious that you are one of the 996 Turbo forum's "know it all's". I finally decided to throw my line out there and you took the bait. It's also obvious you have a hard on for China. That's cool. No one is judging. I want to clarify my position and be done since this has been a pretty bad thread jack.
I have traveled to both China and Japan. Though, I fail to see how that is relevant to this argument.
Your assertion is that China is the next "Japan". That's like anyone saying "xxx" is the next Michael Jordan. It's a stupid comparison. China will never be Japan and Japan was never China because it's a different country with a different culture. Coming of age at a different time under different circumstances.
I'm simply saying that Japan produced quality products very early on in their "industrial revolution". China has yet to do so. In fact, I can't think of a single Chinese brand that anyone would name in the same sentence with the word "quality". China designs and produces crap. Plain and simple.
Cheers.
I have traveled to both China and Japan. Though, I fail to see how that is relevant to this argument.
Your assertion is that China is the next "Japan". That's like anyone saying "xxx" is the next Michael Jordan. It's a stupid comparison. China will never be Japan and Japan was never China because it's a different country with a different culture. Coming of age at a different time under different circumstances.
I'm simply saying that Japan produced quality products very early on in their "industrial revolution". China has yet to do so. In fact, I can't think of a single Chinese brand that anyone would name in the same sentence with the word "quality". China designs and produces crap. Plain and simple.
Cheers.
#71
#73
Ok, let's back up a few steps here. You clearly cannot admit to being wrong about ANYTHING. Over the 8 months that I've been here it's obvious that you are one of the 996 Turbo forum's "know it all's". I finally decided to throw my line out there and you took the bait. It's also obvious you have a hard on for China. That's cool. No one is judging. I want to clarify my position and be done since this has been a pretty bad thread jack.
I have traveled to both China and Japan. Though, I fail to see how that is relevant to this argument.
Your assertion is that China is the next "Japan". That's like anyone saying "xxx" is the next Michael Jordan. It's a stupid comparison. China will never be Japan and Japan was never China because it's a different country with a different culture. Coming of age at a different time under different circumstances.
I'm simply saying that Japan produced quality products very early on in their "industrial revolution". China has yet to do so. In fact, I can't think of a single Chinese brand that anyone would name in the same sentence with the word "quality". China designs and produces crap. Plain and simple.
Cheers.
I have traveled to both China and Japan. Though, I fail to see how that is relevant to this argument.
Your assertion is that China is the next "Japan". That's like anyone saying "xxx" is the next Michael Jordan. It's a stupid comparison. China will never be Japan and Japan was never China because it's a different country with a different culture. Coming of age at a different time under different circumstances.
I'm simply saying that Japan produced quality products very early on in their "industrial revolution". China has yet to do so. In fact, I can't think of a single Chinese brand that anyone would name in the same sentence with the word "quality". China designs and produces crap. Plain and simple.
Cheers.
As for China only ever making crap you could not be more wrong and as I wrote I have personal experience with it. I have lived it. A long time friend of mine's USA roller bearing manufacturing company was put out of business by a Chinese competitor. I asked him flat out if their bearings were inferior quality. He said, "No, thats the problem."
That is why I asked if you have been to China. Even though you say you have I have hard time believing it because everyone I know who has been to China, including myself, understands the future being built there.
In the next couple of decades we will see how the perspective of Chinese manufacturing changes from crap to quality, or not. Just stick around for it, I am relatively young so I'll still be here. In the meantime if you see no value in my posts put me on "ignore".
#74
i've momentarily misplaced my foil hat, but it goes something like this:
large groups of ceo's of multinational corporate entities get together in places like davos in CH and eat drink, ski and informally "talk" and plan their next big moves like should porsce be made in michoacan? or ... and they make far reaching decisions as to where stuff "gets made" that will maximize their bottom line vis vis costs vs finished products.
why do we suppose cadillacs and many more US subsidized auto factory's are made in china and vw passats are made in mexico, and why do you think that certain people occasionally stick their necks out and have them quickly severed.
it's about global economics not "quality control". QC has gone the way of the smith corona typewriter and the end goal is not to "make stuff last" any longer.
the technology is not tied or beholden to any geographic area, country or political bent. the only concern is that the few humans left to oversee the robots to watch the few remaining humans who are responsible for the majority of the actual "labor"! must never again, rise up against their managers and just ensure "they" don't ever again unionize or band together in any organized way.
this is bad for business. lol at times i feel like upton sinclair
large groups of ceo's of multinational corporate entities get together in places like davos in CH and eat drink, ski and informally "talk" and plan their next big moves like should porsce be made in michoacan? or ... and they make far reaching decisions as to where stuff "gets made" that will maximize their bottom line vis vis costs vs finished products.
why do we suppose cadillacs and many more US subsidized auto factory's are made in china and vw passats are made in mexico, and why do you think that certain people occasionally stick their necks out and have them quickly severed.
it's about global economics not "quality control". QC has gone the way of the smith corona typewriter and the end goal is not to "make stuff last" any longer.
the technology is not tied or beholden to any geographic area, country or political bent. the only concern is that the few humans left to oversee the robots to watch the few remaining humans who are responsible for the majority of the actual "labor"! must never again, rise up against their managers and just ensure "they" don't ever again unionize or band together in any organized way.
this is bad for business. lol at times i feel like upton sinclair
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