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This auction is really playing with my head. I have an 03 x50 factory aero car with 23k on it and just can't understand why this "sister" car keeps landing so far outside of market. I am new to the Porsche world but my novice eye identifies the wheels, spoiler (not OEM aero maybe GT3?), and rear turbo badge location all seem to be non-factory. Could it be some limited production example, celebrity owned, etc???
It didn't sell so I guess it doesn't count but it definitely sparked my curiosity. Is it possible the low mileage 996 and 997 values are going to overlap?
The X factor with this car is the 6,000 miles and the "mods" are easy to reverse. The smart play here would be to return the car to it's stock aesthetics but I think the flipper was lazy..lol
Originally Posted by joehonee
This auction is really playing with my head. I have an 03 x50 factory aero car with 23k on it and just can't understand why this "sister" car keeps landing so far outside of market. I am new to the Porsche world but my novice eye identifies the wheels, spoiler (not OEM aero maybe GT3?), and rear turbo badge location all seem to be non-factory. Could it be some limited production example, celebrity owned, etc???
It didn't sell so I guess it doesn't count but it definitely sparked my curiosity. Is it possible the low mileage 996 and 997 values are going to overlap?
I just read some of this thread for the first time and saw a 996 to 997rsr conversion in the very first post that was apparently sold for 90k...
The build thread is on here or 6speed... All I can say is, if someone really did pay that much, it just goes to show the truth in the saying that there is one born every...
I wanted to keep the first post updated with the most current sales and I asked a mod if that would be possible but they never got back to me. I am unable to edit my first post to make life easier for all of us.
Originally Posted by SteveMFr
Go for it.
I just read some of this thread for the first time and saw a 996 to 997rsr conversion in the very first post that was apparently sold for 90k...
The build thread is on here or 6speed... All I can say is, if someone really did pay that much, it just goes to show the truth in the saying that there is one born every...
Is it possible the low mileage 996 and 997 values are going to overlap?
I'm certain they will overlap eventually. As much as some might think that cars will always line up based on the year they were produced, history says differently after they age.
Having bought my 911SC in 1984, I was around when all Carreras were more expensive than SC's. Now, each owner will tell you to buy the best example, lowest mileage, best maintained version you can find; SC or Carrera. Step changes in technology like the G50 transmission replacing the 915 transmission in the later Carrera's will also generate higher prices; but the rest of the pack line up based on condition.
To some extent 964 and 993 prices overlap and this overlap will continue the older these models get. Once the "last of the aircooled" marketing blitz ends, I think 993's and 964's may be treated somewhat similarly. By similarly, I mean one will not have an advantage over the other simply because it was built a year or two later; there will be something else that drives the difference (Weissach rear end in the 993 for example).
Right now 996 and 997 prices are lined up to some extent based on the year produced. But long term, I think they will line up based on the items I listed above. There will always be those that prefer one model over the other, but all the average high mileage versions will get grouped together. IMO.
Lot's of good points being made here; keep 'em coming, I really enjoy reading the various perspectives. I wonder what the market thinks of an '05 996 since that is typically considered to be a 997 year. Any relevance to that or last year made? IIRC, PCNA told me that our car is one of 72 '05 TT Cabs which I assume excludes TT-S Cabs..
I think another factor at play here is that "low mileage" is changing because the 996 was the first generation of 911's that were truly a 4-season car, esp TT's if you had winter wheels. 996's don't require much sacrifice to DD so a lot of them were probably enjoyed more than previous gens, imo. Many journalists called the 996TT the first everyday supercar.
What I would like to know is how much the super-low mileage one that was on Ebay sold for. After they lowered it to $225K it was not very long before they ended the listing saying it was no longer avail.
The 2005 Turbos are special and desirable because they are Turbo Ss and thus rarer. 2005 was the only year the 996 Turbo S was available and it was also the last of 996TT production. It doesn't really have anything to do with 2005 being a 997 year.
Generally collectors are always more interested in car models from the first year of their production and/or the last year of their production.
In 2005 you could order a Turbo Cab, not sure about the coupe, that was not an S. They are even more rare in that aspect. It is commonly believed that only the S was available in '05 but that is not the case. Again, I don't know about the coupes but Turbo Cab's I know were available; I have one in my garage.
In 2005 you could order a Turbo Cab, not sure about the coupe, that was not an S. They are even more rare in that aspect. It is commonly believed that only the S was available in '05 but that is not the case. Again, I don't know about the coupes but Turbo Cab's I know were available; I have one in my garage.
Yes there were other 996 Turbo models available in 2005 but the Turbo S was only built in 2005.
Prices in Europe have gone up a bit more across all models of the Turbo. Condition and low miles is key to big money. Coupe's were a bit higher compared to cabs a while ago but that has been leveled out now, they are the same money. I would guess the miles contribute to that as most cabs are very low miles.
As I think Carlo mentioned previously, that was certainly wishful thinking for a black Tip and those miles (low, but not ultra low like the actual 6 figure cars). Looks like a good buy at that price, though.
05-19-2017, 04:57 PM
