self driving
09-10-2015, 07:44 PM
#32
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I will leave you with this. A hundred years ago the main mode of transportation was the horse. Cars replaced the horse but the horse didn't disappear. People who love horses still have them, enjoy them, and ride them. It will be the same way with human driven cars in the future. You will still be able to drive it and enjoy it. Maybe even more than you do now because it will become a very special experience. Something to be savored.
09-10-2015, 07:53 PM
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It has not been proven on a large scale.
I also follow this technology closely, because the biggest issue in the end will be an overreach by government; mandatory use of these vehicles (if not everywhere, then certainly in metropolitan areas). This will be couched as the government managing "safety", when in fact it is none of their business. The erosion of freedom will continue. The dumbing down of citizens will continue.
Of course the legal issues are also very important, as the determination of who is liable when there are accidents (and there will be) will have to be determined. Will it be the occupant of the vehicle, or will it be the manufacturer? Will the government be liable when the GPS constellation doesn't provide the required ANP performance? If the occupant of the vehicle is judged liable and charged (it could be a charge of vehicular homicide if there is a fatality) then people will start taking more interest in what the vehicle is doing to avoid these risks, instead of watching TV, goofing off, or being hammered (there can't be any driving under the influence when you aren't actually driving the vehicle). If they are therefore going to pay attention, then why not actually drive the vehicle themselves?
I also follow this technology closely, because the biggest issue in the end will be an overreach by government; mandatory use of these vehicles (if not everywhere, then certainly in metropolitan areas). This will be couched as the government managing "safety", when in fact it is none of their business. The erosion of freedom will continue. The dumbing down of citizens will continue.
Of course the legal issues are also very important, as the determination of who is liable when there are accidents (and there will be) will have to be determined. Will it be the occupant of the vehicle, or will it be the manufacturer? Will the government be liable when the GPS constellation doesn't provide the required ANP performance? If the occupant of the vehicle is judged liable and charged (it could be a charge of vehicular homicide if there is a fatality) then people will start taking more interest in what the vehicle is doing to avoid these risks, instead of watching TV, goofing off, or being hammered (there can't be any driving under the influence when you aren't actually driving the vehicle). If they are therefore going to pay attention, then why not actually drive the vehicle themselves?
As for the other stuff you laid out. The insurance companies have already worked this out. If an accident occurs with an autonomous vehicle liability lies complete within the autonomous technology. The human occupant is not liable nor is a spotty GPS signal. Are the tech companies worried? Not in the least. They know what they are building works and will work better better than the average human at the wheel.
09-10-2015, 07:57 PM
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09-10-2015, 08:01 PM
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09-10-2015, 08:08 PM
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It's not the driving that I was alluding to, it was the erosion of privacy and freedom. Sitting around and opining that you or others won't be alive when certain things come to fruition just means you really don't care about the future of others or this country. Having kids has a way of making one think more about these things.
09-10-2015, 08:14 PM
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I have said all I can say about this and I am very willing to deal with what the future will bring when that future actually begins. How you want to deal with it is up to you.
09-10-2015, 08:17 PM
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It's not the driving that I was alluding to, it was the erosion of privacy and freedom. Sitting around and opining that you or others won't be alive when certain things come to fruition just means you really don't care about the future of others or this country. Having kids has a way of making one think more about these things.
09-10-2015, 10:05 PM
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I enjoy driving of all kinds and I abhor more government involvement in my life. Don't kid yourself - the more we allow the government to dictate everything to us, the less freedom we have, and the more cost we will absorb. See healthcare as a perfect example happening in real time right in front of us.
Plenty of people will think it's a great idea. Plenty of people also thought communism was a viable form of government.
Plenty of people will think it's a great idea. Plenty of people also thought communism was a viable form of government.
09-10-2015, 11:14 PM
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this isn;t about :"safety" per se!! it's about black boxes and "control grids" and license plate reading tech, and the elimination of human discretionary freedoms that many of us are old enough to remember.
but i notice daily an inability of the group here, and elsewhere in the real world a diminishing ability to exercise basic critical thinking skills. blame the schools hah.
so sure, self parking or lane change auto pilot is seen as "progress".
whatever, we're all a doomed group. you guys should look up the ramifications of our currently debated CA state resolution ab 350 http://focus.senate.ca.gov/climate
i'm positive the majority here have no idea exactly how this will impact us all. real time black box reporting of your SPEED, trajectory, gasoline usage, etc etc. oh thank you great leaders for helping me save gas lol. while oil is sitting at 42 a barrel. sheesh.
as goes CA, so goes the rest of the country. enjoy it while you can. driving, that is.
09-10-2015, 11:17 PM
#45
"the only thing wrong with socialism, is that eventually you run out of other people's money".