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Old 04-13-2015 | 12:55 AM
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I've seen pictures of some of the discount buys made here recently and I usually find something nice to say= but bottom line they got what they paid for and I would have passed. I'm going to try my best from now on not to suggest or comment on pricing .To put it nicely a good portion of new buyers are on a budget that really doesn't equate to this level of car and few will have them long term. Just an opinion from years of the car game= people buy cars without the budget for repairs and before long they are looking to sell.
Old 04-13-2015 | 01:09 AM
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to the OP: sounds like a nice car and a good price. I don't blame you for not stating the price now or after you bought it. What you pay is personal to some and if you go to sell down the road rennlisters will be able to see what you paid and try to use that against you.
btw: these are great cars and you will enjoy it immensely. what are you going to use the car for? weekend garage queen? take it to the track? DD? or something else? will you mod it? good luck whatever happens and don't mind the guys who like to bicker in this section.
Old 04-13-2015 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dock
Interesting info though. Thanks for posting it.
Old 04-13-2015 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
to the OP:... what are you going to use the car for? weekend garage queen? take it to the track? DD? or something else? will you mod it?
Not exactly sure what my plans are yet. I like to try different cars and motos, some I end up keeping for a long time, some end up cycling through the garage more quickly. I have the feeling the TT will be a keeper.

My vehicles rarely stay completely stock, but I definitely prefer to buy them completely unmolested unless I really trust the details of the mods. Seems like the obvious upgrades on the TT would be a ECU flash and coilovers, plus a bit of a nav/bluetooth/iDevice integration upgrade.

I've done quite a few DE's and open track days and would love to have the car competent on the track, but I've also gone a bit too far in the past making a street car really competent on the track but in the process over-sacrificing non-track comfort and drivability. I don't know that AWD makes the most enjoyable track cars anyway and don't want to do a RWD conversion, so it will likely be an alternate vehicle to take on nice days or if I'm going someplace with interesting roads between here and there and just a few DE's or track days a year.

I also do lots of dual-sport, off road, adventure motorcycling and am a huge dakar rally fan. Nobody ever seems to take the 996TT more in the 959-Dakar tribute direction... I think it would be an absolute blast with the proper suspension/wheel/tires/protection setup on looser surfaces like desert, gravel, and snow, and at the value point of 996TT's these days, I don't have to overthink sacrificing it to the stone-chip gods as you would something like a 993 Turbo.

Am I insane for considering going in this direction with a TT? Would I get stoned by the 'check all panels with a paint meter' crowd?

Old 04-13-2015 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by "02996ttx50
until i dropped out in what used to be referred as the 5th grade.
Dropped out of school in the 5th grade or debate?
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Nobody ever seems to take the 996TT more in the 959-Dakar tribute direction... I think it would be an absolute blast with the proper suspension/wheel/tires/protection setup on looser surfaces like desert, gravel, and snow, and at the value point of 996TT's these days, I don't have to overthink sacrificing it to the stone-chip gods as you would something like a 993 Turbo.

Am I insane for considering going in this direction with a TT? Would I get stoned by the 'check all panels with a paint meter' crowd?
my car is a dedicated hillclimbing 600rwhp dirtracker. i'm dead serious.

no one ( few?) sport bikes included, can beat me up/down my hills. i live in a nat'l park, lots of very! steep corners, 15 mph corners ( heh ) and long uphill straights dirt,debris and rock chips are part of its daily diet. though i also have a fondness for rock chicks myself. the car is just fine in uphill rallye conditions. as long as you're rwd, as ya cant throttle steer with that marginal viscous coupler draggin ya around lol

fk it! its an old car! lol. many of these guys act like they have some kind of collector museum piece hah. yeah, paint meters LOL!
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:19 AM
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PFBZ,
Welcome to the turbo forum. I made the switch from a C4S last spring. Not looking back my friend. Great drama on that forum with the IMSB, D-chunk, etc. worries. I've built a data base that follows an equation for 996 tt asking prices. a 30k mile car averages $48,062. A 40k mile car; $44,834. Not sure where you are exactly. Add $560 per year from 2001 to adjust for age. I'd deduct around $3 or $4k for the niggles that you'll need to fix. Use all that to get the price down. Let us know how you end up!
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^ that all makes my off the cuff guess at mid to upper 40's price pretty fairly on the mark lol.

geez, now if only i could find someone without a paint meter to buy mine for 30, i could get a real beat up 997.1t and mess that one up too! lol
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by highlander
Quick snapshot from Cars.com
Year Price Miles
2003 78000 15571
Is that car in Colorado? Guy must have just came out of the "pharmacy". From my database, that car should have an ask of around $55.5k. Not sure what can be done to get it to $78k.
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4
Not sure what can be done to get it to $78k.
perhaps the sultan of dubai had it gold plated?? they do wierd stuff to cars over there. could be!? lol
Old 04-13-2015 | 11:50 AM
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I wonder if most people here and elsewhere ever listen to themselves as all that's talked about is how cheap can I buy it. What ever happened to figure out what its worth and pay a fair price. I personally would not ask anyone that I did not know very well to help me figure the price of a car. Bottom line if you have to worry about a few thousand with a car as complicated as a Porsche Turbo you are better off looking at another choice. And Dock was right as in to come here and ask for help on pricing and then not at least mentioning the asking is silly. Set a budget and get the best car that fits= there is no free lunch.
Old 04-13-2015 | 06:03 PM
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Friedrich Nietzsche on a certain poster in this thread: There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Old 04-14-2015 | 01:04 AM
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I mostly hang out in the (non-Turbo) 996 forum... We have 'special' personalities over their as well. Most know the difference between those whom have a sharp wit vs. those who are just plain-old not the sharpest....

At any rate, I was able to get copies of every repair order since new from the local dealer and it's going in for a PPI tomorrow. It appears that the alternator might not be putting out full output, but that perfectly illustrates two different perspectives on non-warranty Porsche ownership.
  • Perspective one, the 'Bring it to the dealer and have them fix it" owner. The dealer quoted $1,900 to put in a new alternator! Not to difficult to conclude owning an out of warranty Porsche is ridiculously expensive!

  • Alternately, the "Read the forums and work on it yourself" perspective. Alternator issues are fairly common in these cars, and often can be fixed by replacing a $40 regulator/brush module and maybe an hour to R&R the alternator. Or a local rebuild, or just a new Bosch alternator for a few hundred. Just a bit cheaper!

I pick option two...
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Originally Posted by pfbz
I mostly hang out in the (non-Turbo) 996 forum... We have 'special' personalities over their as well. Most know the difference between those whom have a sharp wit vs. those who are just plain-old not the sharpest....

At any rate, I was able to get copies of every repair order since new from the local dealer and it's going in for a PPI tomorrow. It appears that the alternator might not be putting out full output, but that perfectly illustrates two different perspectives on non-warranty Porsche ownership.
  • Perspective one, the 'Bring it to the dealer and have them fix it" owner. The dealer quoted $1,900 to put in a new alternator! Not to difficult to conclude owning an out of warranty Porsche is ridiculously expensive!

  • Alternately, the "Read the forums and work on it yourself" perspective. Alternator issues are fairly common in these cars, and often can be fixed by replacing a $40 regulator/brush module and maybe an hour to R&R the alternator. Or a local rebuild, or just a new Bosch alternator for a few hundred. Just a bit cheaper!

I pick option two...
the height of irony, when an internet bully runs for cover the moment he/she is called out. you know "whats up" lol.

dont or at least avoid any dealership at anytime possible for what should be ( are ) obvious reasons. thievery being one lol

my bosch alt fix was new ( always new never refurb! ) and yes, to one hour labor. can be done in a driveway with beer i hear of folks switching out just the VR? but i was advised that just when that WAS the issue and you only replaced that? the alternator itself gives up the ghost. for 500/600? some things are best done once and right the first time. though i DO see the wisdom of replacing a 40$ part IF thats all that truly is needed!
Old 04-14-2015 | 12:50 PM
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Find a car, drive it, inspect it, make an offer. I feel like I got a good deal on mine. 3 owner car, maintenance history, no accidents, clean ppi (leaky spoiler ram) and 28k miles for 40k. I think a lot depends on who you are buying from. I'd expect anyone here selling would be firm and more informed where as a non Internet forum member who didn't care much for community would be easier to haggle with. Dealer cars you have to expect a premium and the "process" of dealing with a salesman.


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