Differences? - H&R Street Performance Coilover & KW V1 Coilover
12-26-2015, 10:41 AM
#46
No need to worry about Bilstein doing them, Elephant Racing (amongst others) will do them...
geez rob.., was told and have been counting on the ability to just refresh thru bilstein the existing components! argh. they've been sitting in a friggin box for me for almost this whole year!
oh sh*t.. just when i think i *almost* have stuff figured out. ugh. well, john.. you know you'd get a pm from me! which you're always kind enough to take time out to answer! i hope i'm not gonna have to re-do EVERYthing but if i *finally* do? it'll answer once and for all, my half assed rwd *semi* conversion that i have now! ( that I'm actually perfectly ok with now!.. crazy as that sounds! )
oh sh*t.. just when i think i *almost* have stuff figured out. ugh. well, john.. you know you'd get a pm from me! which you're always kind enough to take time out to answer! i hope i'm not gonna have to re-do EVERYthing but if i *finally* do? it'll answer once and for all, my half assed rwd *semi* conversion that i have now! ( that I'm actually perfectly ok with now!.. crazy as that sounds! )
12-26-2015, 10:50 AM
#47
FWIW, Joey @ E-Motion Engineering (ex-BBi chassis guru) has been strong recommending KW Clubsports to me...prefers over Ohlins...just wish they were in my budget this round 
12-26-2015, 11:12 AM
#48
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12-26-2015, 11:14 AM
#49
12-26-2015, 12:02 PM
#50
i just read up on an hours worth of bilsteins stuff. as I've said theyre refurb place is somewhat local.
honestly? absent full gt3 uprights/conversion removal of the diff ( which is long overdue anyway ) i think the smartest thing i could do i just simply buy new b8's and new springs, even though my last set has maybe 20k miles on them. the mo30 dampers are another story. but i have no visceral "sense" they are not working as they should! if the car "bounces"? it's because i've thrown it literally around some off camber switchback, and usually downhill hard turn(s). but "new" anything isn't going to hurt.
honestly? absent full gt3 uprights/conversion removal of the diff ( which is long overdue anyway ) i think the smartest thing i could do i just simply buy new b8's and new springs, even though my last set has maybe 20k miles on them. the mo30 dampers are another story. but i have no visceral "sense" they are not working as they should! if the car "bounces"? it's because i've thrown it literally around some off camber switchback, and usually downhill hard turn(s). but "new" anything isn't going to hurt.
12-26-2015, 12:27 PM
#51
IMHO, If you have a GT2/3 suspension kicking around I'd be putting it on.
Same reasoning for me putting my Bilstein's on my dad's TT, it's here and its goodstuff...
That said, B8's will probably get the job done too...
Same reasoning for me putting my Bilstein's on my dad's TT, it's here and its goodstuff...
That said, B8's will probably get the job done too...
12-26-2015, 02:43 PM
#52
my reasoning is if i DO! finish the gt2/3 uprights/carriers and finalize my rwd conversion and dump that extra and useless front diff weight? then the gt3 bits/coilovers etc go on!
but...if i keep it half a**ed and only need to reinstall the cardan shatft to make it awd again ( though it'll still have the wavetrac lsd
) then it'll be just NEW b8's and new springs. you see my logic. thx for the advice!
12-26-2015, 02:50 PM
#53
no worries, I had my suspension on the back-burner for last couple years 
it WILL get done this winter lol.
In my dad's car, we will be keeping it AWD(his works very well) but using my GT2 coilovers.
One nice thing about the B8 route is new parts and simplicity
it WILL get done this winter lol.In my dad's car, we will be keeping it AWD(his works very well) but using my GT2 coilovers.
One nice thing about the B8 route is new parts and simplicity
i've ben indecisive on this for a year nearly. cpl more months wont mater
my reasoning is if i DONT finish the gt2/3 uprights/carriers and finalize my rwd conversion and dump that extra and useless front diff weight? then the gt3 bits/coilovers etc go on!
but...if i keep it half a**ed and only need to reinstall the cardan shatft to make it awd again ( though it'll still have the wavertrac lsd ) then it'll be just NEW b8's and new springs. you see my logic. thx for the advice!
my reasoning is if i DONT finish the gt2/3 uprights/carriers and finalize my rwd conversion and dump that extra and useless front diff weight? then the gt3 bits/coilovers etc go on!
but...if i keep it half a**ed and only need to reinstall the cardan shatft to make it awd again ( though it'll still have the wavertrac lsd
) then it'll be just NEW b8's and new springs. you see my logic. thx for the advice!
12-26-2015, 03:50 PM
#55
I hear ya lol, if you have the GT uprights then install/parts is easy to run GT coils, if keeping the TT uprights then more work/parts to run GT coils.
12-26-2015, 11:11 PM
#56
Does your dad have GT2 coilovers with the awd ? If so were any mods required?
An off topic question, what tires and sizes is your dad running on the GT2 sized OZ wheels. You mentioned there is no issue. My car absolutely hates these wheels with Nittos on it, I've adjusted liner brackets and clearing but its making all these wired noises even in the straights.
12-26-2015, 11:18 PM
#57
Will be keeping the AWD with the GT2 coilovers.
For the front; sleeves for the uprights, either top-mount spring adapters or new strut-mounts will be required. Also will need to run Tarett or similar sway bar mounts.
For the rear, new sway bar mounts
GT2 sized 235/40-18 and 315/30-18 Pirelli Pzeros, pulled them directly from my car
IIRC, there is a small amount of adjustment in the radiator brackets, might be able to pull the liners ahead a hair
For the front; sleeves for the uprights, either top-mount spring adapters or new strut-mounts will be required. Also will need to run Tarett or similar sway bar mounts.
For the rear, new sway bar mounts
GT2 sized 235/40-18 and 315/30-18 Pirelli Pzeros, pulled them directly from my car
IIRC, there is a small amount of adjustment in the radiator brackets, might be able to pull the liners ahead a hair
Rob
Does your dads have GT2 coilovers with the awd ? If so were any mods required?
An off topic question, what tires is your dad running on the GT2 sized OZ wheels. You mentioned there is no issue. My car absolutely hates these wheels with Nittos on it, I've adjusted liner brackets and clearing but its making all these wired noises even in the straights.
Does your dads have GT2 coilovers with the awd ? If so were any mods required?
An off topic question, what tires is your dad running on the GT2 sized OZ wheels. You mentioned there is no issue. My car absolutely hates these wheels with Nittos on it, I've adjusted liner brackets and clearing but its making all these wired noises even in the straights.
07-01-2016, 12:03 AM
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Do you mind sharing what ride height range you ended up at? I am considering h&r or bilstein. I do not want to go any lower than gt2 ride height. My fear is that the correct setup for the h&r will be below gt2 height.
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Here is my take on it. Been about a month now since I installed the H&R Street Coilovers + rear toe lockouts & adj toe arms .. I am very happy with them. They are better than stock in every way. I'm sure this would apply to PSS10, KW, etc.. as well. All great choices.
I researched quite a bit before making my decision and I also considered H&R Springs + Bilstein shocks. A setup like this would be 15-1600 or so (each shock is around 300 and the springs are also about 300). I think a setup like this would be great BUT for just a small bit more you can get adjustable ride height with the coilovers.
H&R Street coilovers as well as H&R RSS coilovers both use Bilstein shocks and you end up with a matching package for very little more $$ (200-300) . From what I've read H&R coilovers are very similar in design to what comes on GT2. The shocks that come with the H&R coilovers can also be rebuilt and revalved as well.
Once you have adjustable ride height on the car you won't want to go back
I researched quite a bit before making my decision and I also considered H&R Springs + Bilstein shocks. A setup like this would be 15-1600 or so (each shock is around 300 and the springs are also about 300). I think a setup like this would be great BUT for just a small bit more you can get adjustable ride height with the coilovers.
H&R Street coilovers as well as H&R RSS coilovers both use Bilstein shocks and you end up with a matching package for very little more $$ (200-300) . From what I've read H&R coilovers are very similar in design to what comes on GT2. The shocks that come with the H&R coilovers can also be rebuilt and revalved as well.
Once you have adjustable ride height on the car you won't want to go back
07-04-2016, 04:15 AM
#59
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I ended up at GT2 ride height and had my alignment done to GT2 specs. Still loving the setup.
I believe the H&R Rss coilovers are the ones that are extremely low ride height (as well as much higher spring rates) H&R Street are perfect for my application, ride height I was after plus similar to gt2 spring rates.
I believe the H&R Rss coilovers are the ones that are extremely low ride height (as well as much higher spring rates) H&R Street are perfect for my application, ride height I was after plus similar to gt2 spring rates.
07-27-2022, 04:50 PM
#60
Hi everyone, I found this old thread and decided to bring it back alive.
I have a 2003 996 TT that is stock, talking suspension here. I want to do a refresh. I am considering on getting H&R RSS1462-1 coil overs and H&R 71385 rear sway bar. However, I want to add that I have stock (996 TT) rims (8x18 offset 50 front and 11x18 offset 45 rear) and my tires are non-stock (235x40x18 front and 315x30x18 rear). So I put GT2 tires on 996 TT rims and stock suspension, they are perfect. I do have spacers but don't remember the width.
I have gone to H&R's website and they do not show kits for GT2's. I wanted to compare kits between the 996 TT and the 996 GT2 but it's not available. As I understand from this old thread, going with H&R's RSS1462-1 coil overs will lower the 996 TT ride height to the 996 GT2 ride height and I am concerned about tire rubbing/clearance and stiffness. I also don't want to have a stiff ride as suggested above and controversial as some have argued it rides nicely. Someone suggested going with H&R's Street Performance coil over's kit # 29462-2. Does anyone have the experience or knowledge to give me advice? What will I need to do?
Thanks in advance !!!
I have a 2003 996 TT that is stock, talking suspension here. I want to do a refresh. I am considering on getting H&R RSS1462-1 coil overs and H&R 71385 rear sway bar. However, I want to add that I have stock (996 TT) rims (8x18 offset 50 front and 11x18 offset 45 rear) and my tires are non-stock (235x40x18 front and 315x30x18 rear). So I put GT2 tires on 996 TT rims and stock suspension, they are perfect. I do have spacers but don't remember the width.
I have gone to H&R's website and they do not show kits for GT2's. I wanted to compare kits between the 996 TT and the 996 GT2 but it's not available. As I understand from this old thread, going with H&R's RSS1462-1 coil overs will lower the 996 TT ride height to the 996 GT2 ride height and I am concerned about tire rubbing/clearance and stiffness. I also don't want to have a stiff ride as suggested above and controversial as some have argued it rides nicely. Someone suggested going with H&R's Street Performance coil over's kit # 29462-2. Does anyone have the experience or knowledge to give me advice? What will I need to do?
Thanks in advance !!!