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Old 11-11-2014, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by "02996ttx50
^somewhere above 550 crank assuming one has installed a 5 bar fpr i would imagine fuel ( or lack thereof ) can become an issue, which this reads like so i'm with you on that. but it does not read like a maf issue to me, but i'm "guessing" too.

..and mac, the quote you referenced was from a contributor, not the op. i don't believe the op is mafless? he indicated in his original post, he has already replaced the maf. even still, that doesn't sound like maf issues at all. or not any i have had, should say.
Yes, I know the quoted text was from a contributor. I still think -- I say this before looking at the data logs -- the MAF has to come under suspicion. I do not believe the MAF is bad per se only that it is being asked to do more -- measure more air -- than it was designed to measure.

And I realize the OP's set up is not MAF-less. That is my point, well my guess as to what is the solution.

However let's see what the logged data logged shows.
Old 11-11-2014, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Macster

And I realize the OP's set up is not MAF-less. That is my point, well my guess as to what is the solution.

However let's see what the logged data logged shows.
i understand. i feel i know most any maf malfunction symptoms merely from having had them. while perusing datalogs, leave me oddly resembling the nipper dog baffled by the sound of his masters voice.
Old 11-11-2014, 03:40 PM
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I'm going away for the week. I've got an oil filler cap being delivered. I'll do another run when I get back and post results again.

Just wish it was fixed!!!!!
Old 11-11-2014, 05:23 PM
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make sure it's coming with the o-ring inside! its probably only the o-ring you need btw.
Hope it fixes all the issues.
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Rob
Old 11-11-2014, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 993GT
well let's say at least mid 500's hp, crank, or ~500whp.
The injectors don't help with the pump duty cycle, injector duty cycle yes but not the fuel pump itself.
I agree, different issue from the 3/4 throttle issue, I think.
Definitely some strange going on, but a log will be a great starting point.
Seems to be some guys on 6S.O. with the 997 upgrade, but am continually researching it...definitely possible with some small tweaks.
Would be a sweet upgrade to do the 90L 997 tank with pump...
Trying a big direct power line to the pump w. HD relay would be worth a shot, can only help
I have to add that this issue (the occasional bogging under high lateral Gs in a right turn) was also present with my old RUF set up that had RUF turbos along with a RUF ECU and stock injectors. So obviously this is something fuel pump/system related.
Old 11-11-2014, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by noble1978
Powder hound. My throttle opening and demand are the same as yours. It's strange eh? I thought it was a problem as its a new throttle body but I've been assured it's not.
Very strange. Like I said, I've never really noticed it as I generally never put the hammer all the way to then carpet, just enough to get max boost.
Old 11-11-2014, 08:20 PM
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i hammer down constantly less out of necessity! but more in recognition of an electronic throttle and that when i learned to drive we didn't have them newfangled throttle bodies.. i just dont want there to be even an inkling of an ambiguation as to what i'm asking of the car lol

works for me
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Might be worth pulling the pump out and seeing if the 'bowl'/sump is still there and lined up right.

Originally Posted by powdrhound
I have to add that this issue (the occasional bogging under high lateral Gs in a right turn) was also present with my old RUF set up that had RUF turbos along with a RUF ECU and stock injectors. So obviously this is something fuel pump/system related.
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Originally Posted by 993GT
Might be worth pulling the pump out and seeing if the 'bowl'/sump is still there and lined up right.
That's the plan...
Old 11-20-2014, 02:42 PM
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Gents, i'm back from hols.

Today i've replaced my oil cap and checked all vacuum hoses were secure etc.

What i'd like to know now is what the voltage should be at the input to the N75 boost controller and what controls it.
Is it a proportional solenoid or on/off? i'm assuming it should be 12v or 0v for on and off?
Old 11-20-2014, 02:50 PM
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AFAIK, N75 sees 12V pulses(many a second) to control airflow, 0V=wastegates get full airflow/low boost, 12V valve bypasses the airflow and wastegates see less airflow=more boost...more 12V pulses/second=more boost
Old 11-20-2014, 02:53 PM
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^ that's the way I understand the workings also.
Old 11-20-2014, 02:59 PM
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I think its the opposite way round. Here is how i'm guessing it works.

12v opens the input (from the tee at diverter valves) to the wastegates.
0v closes the input and lets it through to be fed back in to the throttle body input.

Does that sound like the correct airflow description?
I'm pretty sure about the voltages but only because i've been blowing through it with voltage on!

the thing is i've got 9v between pins and not enough to open the input to the wastegates!, for some reason i've got -3v on my ground pin!!!! I'm thinking this is my problem but can't find a wiring diagram to check it out or determine where the voltage is coming from.
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AFAIK, 0 Volts at N75 = no boost...because if the valve/electrics fail, then it is fail-safed for no boost
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that does make sense ref fail safe, so my understanding of the airflow must be wrong then?



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