MTNRIDE

Yikes! Carlo knows his stuff! Price the car at Retail book (SB $53-56K) and wait for the right buyer if you want to sell it. Otherwise hang onto it, enjoy it (a lot) and sell it in top condition in 5-8 years. You'll profit. Both in resale return and in a few more years of quality Porsche driving. Clean, well cared for, lower mileage Turbo's are always sought after. With new ones going up over the 180K mark (or more with the "options") these beautiful, split-personality super Porsches are among the brand's best. It's not a 996. And I agree with Carlo on that one, except for the guy who wants a sweet little driver, for comparatively low dollars, that he can drive till the wheels fall off. Turbos be different animals.

MTNRIDE

Carlo,
Here's the car I PM'd you about....

911Königin

Sounds like a great time to buy

tomofva

Can you fill this 911 collectible scale for fun? A= more collectable D= less
I'll get it started

• 1966 A
• 1967 A
• 1968
• 1969
• 1970
• 1971-1974
• 1975-1977 C
• 1978-1983 B
• 1984-1988 C
• 1989-1993 964
• 1994-1997 993
• 1998-2000 996.1
• 2001-2004 996.2
• 2005 996.2
• 2005-2008 997
• 2009-2011 997.2

Carlo_Carrera

Nice car, I sent you a PM.

Turbodan

These are great cars no doubt. However Porsche made a lot of them. Supply and demand determine price. I think they are great cars and at a great deal but I don;t think we will see them surpass their original selling price let alone many multilples of it the way the RS cars of 70s do today (as was referenced by Carlo. They are great cars to own but cars are usually terrible investments. Just buy to enjoy.

Carlo_Carrera

The only current model I am suggesting that will be a multiple of its original price, like the 70s Carrera RS, is the first generation GT3. But given enough time all cars will increase in value.

Carlo_Carrera

This is difficult to do because some models of the same vintage will be more valued than others. What I can do is lay out a broad over view of what models I think will be "A" class collectibles in twenty or so years.

JMHO here. I am only talking about the regular cars, no Turbos, special editions, RSs or GT3s. Turbos, special editions, RSs and GT3s will all be A class over time.

All long hood S models will be rock solid A. certain other models of the same vintage could be A as well depending on condition, color, options and the cars legacy.

All the big bumper cars up to 1986 will be B and C.

Cars from 1987 to 1989 with the G50 tranny will be A. They are the final and ultimate edition of the original 911.

964s don't seem to have much going for them presently so they are looking like C or maybe B.

The 993 on the other hand is looking great. The last and ultimate edition of the the air cooled cars. They will be A and B.

The 996s are look like dogs, especially first generation. Styling not great and the motors suck. D, or maybe if lucky C. 2nd generation 996s might make B, but right now I am doubting it, those engines are a value killer.

First generation 997 suffer the same fate. The styling is really great but that damn IMS trouble engine. C maybe B.

Second generation 997 with the new direct injected 9A1 motors will make B, and possibly A. They are great looking and finally have a descent engine to match.

The 991 is looking good so far. They could be a B or possibly better.

Again JMHO, no hate mail necessary.

NYC996x50

Add to that, the new 991 gt3 and turbo models have electric steering and no stick shift option. I think people who want water cooled performance and a stick shift will pay a premium for 996tt/gt2/3 a few years down the line. Right now these things are a bargain!

KNS

Agree 100%. Most (vintage) enthusiasts are going to want a manual transmission. While the new Turbo and GT3 will be very popular now, enthusiasts will not seek them out 20 years from now due to the items mentioned above.

MTNRIDE

Kurt! You're everywhere! Good to see you here. Come up for a drive soon. Got a 996tt but still kept the '75.
As far as this discussion goes, top prices for "perfect and rare" vintage or pivotal models will set the bar high but doesn't (IMO) hold true for modified cars, track dogs, high mileage daily drivers or more common high production cars. If you're looking at high end collector Porsches you're talking big bucks and that's great. If you're looking for a personal car... different ball game. Too many factors to mention. This 996tt market looks to be strong today for the best examples. Value is there. I personally believe the value will slump a bit but recover quickly because of the quality and performance they deliver.

KNS

Hey Donnie.

I sent you an email but I think it may have gotten lost... I love 996TTs! You've picked up a really nice car - I'm envious. I purchased a 993 a few months ago but I still find myself looking at 996TTs. I'm sick. Love to get back to Prescott for a drive. Please let me know when the P2P is scheduled.

MTNRIDE

Kurt, PM me your current email and I'll add you to the Posse list for special drives and news about any plans for the next P2P. Always good to hear from you.

The NSX dude

Really nice car, I love PTS Turbos and have never seen a Signal Yellow one.

sebis

I am considering buying a 911 as weekend toy car, I set my budget at around 45k. Question for the members, considering I drive it ~4,000 miles per year for 5 years, what will take a bigger hit in depreciation, a 996tt or a 997.1, all other things being equal (condition, miles, etc.)

I know you are supposed to drive it and enjoy it but life changes and I would like to know what to expect.

TIA

--Sebis