The 60K sucks 1.7k
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The 60K sucks 1.7k
I realize that the Porsche Tax is alive and well in the world, but seriously, $1700.00 plus 189$ for brake fluid flush and fill is just tad over the top for a 60K service interval. It is not my fault that Porsche designed a motor that has to be dropped to replace the spark plugs. Reminds me of a 30K service on a 355 Ferrari a few years ago…but that is a different story.
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I got a quote from an indy for plug change 4 hrs labor, plus $20 per hole, plus replace all the coils, was a little under
$1000. The engine does not have to be dropped to replace the plugs. Rear bumper comes off, the intercoolers come off, and the heat sheilding comes off.
$1000. The engine does not have to be dropped to replace the plugs. Rear bumper comes off, the intercoolers come off, and the heat sheilding comes off.
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I realize that the Porsche Tax is alive and well in the world, but seriously, $1700.00 plus 189$ for brake fluid flush and fill is just tad over the top for a 60K service interval. It is not my fault that Porsche designed a motor that has to be dropped to replace the spark plugs. Reminds me of a 30K service on a 355 Ferrari a few years ago…but that is a different story.
Sincerely,
Macster.
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dealers in SoCal routinely get $2k for a major service. it really does suck. my indie was about a grand for my 90k service but i'm always doing this that and the other, at the same time. once you have the checklist of what is actually "done" vs what is checked/tightened/inspected. the mystique really does disappear, along with any notion that the typical charges might be "fair".
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I hoped you knew this going in before you authorized the work. I learned a long time ago to ask how much first. No disappointments after the fact make it much easier.
So $1900 for a 60K mile service on a $140K car, not unreasonable.
I don't make that kind of money in the time it takes me to do it and I rather enjoy it as well. I'll be happy to do it myself, take my time, improve a few things along the way, and get to know my car a bit better.
So $1900 for a 60K mile service on a $140K car, not unreasonable.
I don't make that kind of money in the time it takes me to do it and I rather enjoy it as well. I'll be happy to do it myself, take my time, improve a few things along the way, and get to know my car a bit better.
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My dealer doesn't discount its hourly rate for my older cars vs. what it charges for brand new cars.
The same goes for parts prices and the cost of other items that are part of a service.
But to cut servicing costs I pare from the official list of things that are done at a specific service what things I have done when I take my cars in. One time I'll have the oil/filter service done and along with this the transmission fluid changed. The next time the oil/filter and the brake fluid flushed/bled. The next time the oil/filter service and new plugs or whatever is due based on time or miles or if something needs taking care of llike last time I had the Boxster in for its oil/filter service the tech replaced the plastic cowl cover piece that had finally cracked and the time before that a window regulator was shot.
The Turbo goes in next week for its oil/filter service (at 100K miles!) and I think I'll replace the worn (> 40K miles) front tires) at the same time.
And sometimes, most of the time, the car just gets an oil/filter service.
Oh, and every time I have the car in I ask the tech to blow the trash out of the radiator ducts unless he finds the stuff too bad and advises the bumper cover needs to be removed for a proper cleaning.
The service manager knows I will grant an ok to have this done should the tech believe it necessary.
But only once per car has the bumper cover had to come off. Sincde then just a blast of air from the tech's modified air gun nozzle does the trick.
Also, every time I ask -- though I don't need to -- for the techs to give the car a good inspection and advise me if anything is found.
The invoice then will have the tech's comments about tire tread depth, brake pad/rotor condition or in one case a note about a camshaft cover oil leak.
Sincerely,
Macster.
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I completed the plug and coil change myself and enjoyed getting to know the car. Some dealers are certainly more expensive than others, but if you price the work up front you won't have any surprises later.
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It's an easy procedure with hand tools and a little patience. I would say 4 hours max. I'd rather pay myself $500/hr vs. a stealership.
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You are exactly right; parts and service reflect the fact that the Turbo was a +120k car when new. I've stated here previously what factors I believe have affected the selling prices of 996 Turbos, but regardless what all of the reasons may really be, it seems some owners don't understand that just because they might have picked up a Turbo for $30-$40k doesn't mean all of a sudden everything about the car reflects what can be expected to be paid for a car that cost that amount new.
As for basic services on the Turbo (plugs/coils/oil/filters) and garage modifications (replacing the exhaust/replacing the shifter), I do all this myself.
As for basic services on the Turbo (plugs/coils/oil/filters) and garage modifications (replacing the exhaust/replacing the shifter), I do all this myself.
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If you owned a 355, you shouldn't be complaining about maintenance on your 996 turbo.
Like you, I have also owned both. One time I dropped my 355 off for a 30k service and ended up with a $25,000 bill for what the dealer called 'some minor items.' I am not saying that can't happen with the 996tt, but it is generally a reliable car that isn't terribly expensive to repair considering what it is.
Like you, I have also owned both. One time I dropped my 355 off for a 30k service and ended up with a $25,000 bill for what the dealer called 'some minor items.' I am not saying that can't happen with the 996tt, but it is generally a reliable car that isn't terribly expensive to repair considering what it is.
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You are exactly right; parts and service reflect the fact that the Turbo was a +120k car when new. I've stated here previously what factors I believe have affected the selling prices of 996 Turbos, but regardless what all of the reasons may really be, it seems some owners don't understand that just because they might have picked up a Turbo for $30-$40k doesn't mean all of a sudden everything about the car reflects what can be expected to be paid for a car that cost that amount new.
As for basic services on the Turbo (plugs/coils/oil/filters) and garage modifications (replacing the exhaust/replacing the shifter), I do all this myself.
As for basic services on the Turbo (plugs/coils/oil/filters) and garage modifications (replacing the exhaust/replacing the shifter), I do all this myself.
The point is the OP is being told you need to drop the motor to change plugs- an out and out lie. Or them make up BS '60k service' prices, knowing that it is padded with many hours for things like 'inspections' that they never do, or do in minutes.
The point is that dealers and indys will size up an owner and decide what they can get away with... or in LaLa land, they dont care and just bend everyone over and know there will be plenty of takers.
nick49- if that 60k service is only a oil change, why does the MSRP justify $1900???? Indeed, the only factors are time, parts price and dealer hourly rate...not MSRP...IMO