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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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I recently tried to install new software on my car. The manufacturer is FVD. We worked on it for half a day one saturday and were not able to get it installed. The FVD tech said it was because my ECU already had software on it. They could not overwrite. So they wanted me to ship my ECU to Germany so they could install their software. It's not that I do not trust them, my issue is that, I am reluctant to spend 1600.00 on new software when I don't even know what the current software is doing. The performance gain may not be much or none at all. Any suggestions on how I could evaluate what I have now?
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by billbarnes
Hi,
I recently tried to install new software on my car. The manufacturer is FVD. We worked on it for half a day one saturday and were not able to get it installed. The FVD tech said it was because my ECU already had software on it. They could not overwrite. So they wanted me to ship my ECU to Germany so they could install their software. It's not that I do not trust them, my issue is that, I am reluctant to spend 1600.00 on new software when I don't even know what the current software is doing. The performance gain may not be much or none at all. Any suggestions on how I could evaluate what I have now?
What is prompting you to seek new software? Is the engine's performance sufficiently weak or no longer as exhilerating as it once was and you're looking to get that well, lovin' feelin' back again?

About all I can suggest is you do some benchmark performance measurements (dyno?) and then read up on what FVD software promises and see how your car's current performance with this unknown software present compares the what you want to move to.

There might be a way to query the current engine controller software for its manufacturer's name or id or something that someone in the flash/software business could use to tell you what's in the car.

There are standard (OBD2) queries (using mode or service number 9 and Infotypes 0, 1 and so on up to 7 or 8, though not all vehicles or their engine controllers support all let alone some of these. But the Turbo does, at least some of them.

Some of these are VIN; Calibration ID; Calibration Verification Numbers; In_Use Performance Tracking.

There are supposedly even more Porsche specific and proprietary data to be had with the right tool. The techs tell me that under certain conditions about '20' pages of data is read and sent to the factory when a car is brought in, mainly when it is brought in for warranty work/repairs.

Sincerely,

Macster.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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What boost pressure (bar) are you getting on a 3 or 4th gear run?

If you have access to a Durametric, you can log a handful of values to get a good idea of what the tune is doing and if it looks ok...

I haven't seen anyone post of a way to determine what tune an ECU has, though.
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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OP- WHERE are you?!?!? Any particular reason you went with FVD? Are they local to you?
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Boost is 1.0 bar at full throttle in 3rd gear.

Macster, thanks for the reploy and suggestions.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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Billbarnes, with the stock one you should be boosting at only .6 and since you're boosting at 1 bar it's definitely modified. Unless there's something wrong that you want to resolve with the re-flash you might want to check with FVD to see what you're getting (performance-wise) ... it's probably not worth the expense if you're only going to gain a boost of .1 after the re-flash.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Why would you say that stock boost is .6?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Agree mine is bone stock ( non X50) boosts .7, and most conservative tunes boost a max of 1bar. So why not stay with what you have and get a refund! Do you have the base tt or the x50.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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For some reason I swear I have seen boost of .8 in mine. I'd have to go back and check. Damn, I guess i have to go for a drive
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 02:42 AM
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.6-.7 range is normal...and of course depending on where you're at in the country due to altitude and other climate conditions you can get +/-.1.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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So you're saying 0.5 to 0.8 bar is stock? From all the reading I have done (and driving ), it seems that 0.8 is stock with most guys getting 0.7 to 0.9 in their cars.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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My .7 bar is at sea level. Not much altitude in S Fla!:-)
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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Try 6th gear @ 3-4k wot. This will show your max boost as load will be highest. I have x50 flashed with exhaust. Result is peak 1.3 bar. No exhaust you should boost 1-1.1 bar. Stock is 0.7 so it seems you are on target. Unless you are going up on mods no point re-flashing.
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