kennyPride

Porsche 911 PDK Carrera 2S vs 996 Turbo.
I can't believe what I just saw. Is this for real.
http://youtu.be/R5BVmaU-Vvo

Turbohead

That Turbo is sick and not in a good way. I also think it weas a tip
Elliot

Dock

The Turbo is probably a Tip. It weighs more than the 2S, and the 2S looks like it got the jump at the start (started befor the Turbo). The Turbo is only 30 hp up to begin with, so the transmission, weight, and start disadvantages really hurt it.

PasPar2

Says its a tip right in the video.

Dock

I didn't read, I just watched the cars and listened to the sound track. Shows my hearing is still good...

SSST

I drove one when i was looking and That PDK is wicked fast. Totally believable if it took on a tip. It might take a 996TT 6 spd if the TT driver wasn't really good on the stick. Published 0-60 times are only 2 tenths apart.

PAULUNM

The new DFI cars are really fast- A few months ago I played with a plain jane carrera 997.2, I was amazed at how fast it was...

kennyPride

Porsche, keeps raising the bar. I guess its all in the family so touche for the C2 PDK. I guess our best competition is our selves. kenny

Dock

A heavy 996 Turbo Tip that is probably 7 years old (or older) isn't exactly the leading edge of the sports car world.

Personally, my 996 Turbo doesn't have any competition. I don't street race, and I don't track it.

LVDell

I'll take my GT1 Metzger motor over the Carrera motor

Youtube videos aren't something I give much credence to.

Kevinmacd

The PDK, is faster then the tip and 6 spd. With that said, the below is with a 2011 6 spd carrera s
C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION Seconds
Zero to 30 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.5
40 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.0
50 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1
60 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4.1
70 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5.1
80 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.8
90 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8.2
100 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10.2
110 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12.2
120 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.4
130 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17.7
140 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.1
150 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26.4
Street start, 5–60 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5.0
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . 7.0
50–70 mph . . . . . . . . . . . . ............................ . . . 7.2
Standing 1/4-mile . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12.6 sec @ 112 mph
Top speed (redline limited) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 179 mph
BRAKING
70–0 mph @ impending lockup . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 154 ft
HANDLING
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.97 g
Understeer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . moderate
FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18 mpg
EPA highway driving . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26 mpg
C/D-observed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 mpg
INTERIOR SOUND LEVEL
Idle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51 dBA
Full-throttle acceleration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86 dBA
70-mph cruising. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75 dBA

With all that being said, just imagine how the new 2011 PDK turbo must be!

DrainsWalletsFast

I've seen quotes of 10.8 second quarter miles. I can't remember if that was for regular or Turbo S though. Still we know dual clutch gearboxes are faster on the track (whether it's the drag strip or the circuit).

SSST

In the latest C&D 911 Turbo vs ZR1 test. C&D clocked the 911 TT PDK at 2.9 sec to 60. Second to the Veyron in quickest cars they had ever tested.

Dock

Yes, being able to launch under boost (launch control), great traction control, over 2700 lbs over the rear wheels during acceleration (thanks to the dynamic weight distribution, but we have that too...the advantage of having a rear engine), and being able to maintain full boost between extremely fast gear changes allows the 997 Turbo with PDK to post impressive acceleration numbers.

For me personally though, I wouldn't give up my 6-speed manual for the improved times. I find the PDK very boring to drive from a man-machine interface standpoint.

SSST

There is an interesting article in the latest issue of Panorama on PDK versus manual. I also appreciate the man machine connection of the manual, but as the article points out... If speed and lap times are your goal, the PDK is far superior. There is a reason double clutch technology is used in F1.