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Old 05-19-2011 | 06:22 PM
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Gearing up to buy '02-'05 TT and while i know the differences between the stock TT/X50/TT-S,however i have few questions regarding the options ?
a)-Are there any standard options on these cars especially an X50 car ?
b)-Does the console looks any different if the car does not have a navigation ? c)-Are Xenon lights standard on an X50/TT-S ?
d)-Any issues with PCCB ? i know they can be replaced with the standard one's but are PCCB's recommended for DD with out any track time ?
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Old 05-19-2011 | 07:26 PM
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X50 Turbo Power Kit
Includes modified turbo chargers, intercoolers,
electronic control units, and
transmission.
Old 05-19-2011 | 07:30 PM
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X50 is itself an option code. Take a look under the hood for the complete option list on the car you're considering.
Old 05-19-2011 | 08:57 PM
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what they said

X50 is an option that consists of larger turbos and intercoolers and some electronic ECU tweeks. It gives the car a bit more power however 0-60mph times are the same as stock and top speed is increased less than 2 mph.

I thought Nav was standard

All 996 Turbos had Litronic (Xenon) lights

Gen 1 PCCBS are good to avoid, Gen 2 are fine for street, but easily damaged and prohibitively expensive to service and repair. I think the general consensus is they wear very fast on the track and are not worth the rotor replacement costs.

reading a few threads and searching the Turbo forum will give you a wealth of information for more details on your questions.
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Originally Posted by nick49
0-60mph times are the same as stock and top speed is increased less than 2 mph.
Is that based on the factory published numbers for 0-60? The caution there would be that the factory numbers are very conservative to begin and I'm sure underestimate both stock and X50. IIRC, the road tests done by Excellence and other magazines do show a few tenths difference. And all of them are better than the factory claims.

No surprise that top speed is close. At those speeds it's pretty much the aerodynamics that are the limiting factor.

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I know nav was standard in 2004. At least on the cab. I'm not sure what year that became the case as I know there are some 996 tt owners that don't have nav.
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Transmission is the same X50 or not.

OP, you can find the Porsche factory order guide- with every possible option code- for each year. Renntech has these for members.

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I am pretty well informed about the standard/X50 differences however i wasn't familiar with what X50 came standard with. I didn't realize X50 was an option in it self ...
My next question,is there any difference physically in how the dash looks with and with out nav ? Is the nav screen still there yet not functional ?
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If you have the nav it is a 2 DIN system with a single CD looking system below it, chances are it's not worth any $$$ since finding updated nav data disks is almost impossible and they cost too much IMO. I replaced my nav system with a Kenwood 2DIN Radio/XM/DVD/Nav/Bluetooth system instead.
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my 2003 NAV is a different unit than in the 2002 and looks different. I agree its not a deal breaker not having it because of the map cost and besides that its a PITA to program compared to aftermarket.
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Originally Posted by C2 Turbo
My next question,is there any difference physically in how the dash looks with and with out nav ? Is the nav screen still there yet not functional ?
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I don't have NAV, and here's how it looks without it (it's an '02 Turbo).

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Originally Posted by Dock
I don't have NAV, and here's how it looks without it (it's an '02 Turbo).

This is exactly what i was looking for..So what's there in place of navigation ?
With out nav,is the car still equpped with all the wiring to be able to get an aftermarket unit installed ?
Thanks guys for helping me out here.
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Originally Posted by C2 Turbo
This is exactly what i was looking for..So what's there in place of navigation ?
With out nav,is the car still equpped with all the wiring to be able to get an aftermarket unit installed ?
Thanks guys for helping me out here.
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The navigation is double din- it replaces the radio+cubby

Remember the nav unit is radio also- the screen displays radio channel stuff, distance/mileage junk, and maps/nav.

If you look at the picture the 4 single din items can be moved around- the top two places will have the nav, then the CD storage, then the environmental controls at the bottom
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Originally Posted by Renn 951
Is that based on the factory published numbers for 0-60? The caution there would be that the factory numbers are very conservative to begin and I'm sure underestimate both stock and X50. IIRC, the road tests done by Excellence and other magazines do show a few tenths difference. And all of them are better than the factory claims.

No surprise that top speed is close. At those speeds it's pretty much the aerodynamics that are the limiting factor.

Top speeds are limited by aero & grearing. There is plenty of power in both versions to reach those thresholds. I would think the smaller faster spooling turbos account for the equal 0-60 times. I;m guessing at higher speeds the 24's will pull harder than the 16's.
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In Germany every car produced by a manufacturer must be able to equal or exceed any published/advertisied performance specifications. Many Porsches do exceed the performances published due to slight variances in the actual horsepower of the engines between enginves so to speak. I'm not sure what the current specification variance allowed is but it used to be up to +5% (way back when).

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