advice needed - 996 turbo or 997 turbo? which would u choose and why?
#16
996TT
pros - well priced, proven reliability, cheaper to service as parts are more readily available, a bit more "raw" feeling when driving (ie not as muted as the 997), less electronic gadgetry to worry about going south
cons - not the prettiest car in the 911 heritage, what type of value will a high mileage, over produced 911 hold years from now (esp if u pick up a car that's already 8-10 years old)
pros - well priced, proven reliability, cheaper to service as parts are more readily available, a bit more "raw" feeling when driving (ie not as muted as the 997), less electronic gadgetry to worry about going south
cons - not the prettiest car in the 911 heritage, what type of value will a high mileage, over produced 911 hold years from now (esp if u pick up a car that's already 8-10 years old)
Pros. While my 2001 996TT (purchased new & currently with 46,500km) has the least "raw" feeling when driving (ie. too easy to go too fast without getting scared), it has also been the most reliable of the 3 to own (especially taking into consideration the relative mileage as compared to what I put on the other cars). Standard maintenance (as per owner's manual) plus the normal wear and tear (brakes). Reliable. Reliable. Reliable.
Cons. Of the 3 cars, the 996TT has without doubt been the one that has held its value the least (the first Turbo to be water cooled and mass produced). Gone are the days of Turbos retaining their value like their air cooled counterparts. I suspect that the 997TT will ultimately have a similar depreciation curve as compared to the 996TT. Nice examples for the 996TT start from the $45K range as compared to $75K for the cheapest 997TT anywhere. I say buy the 996TT and pocket the $25-30K in difference.
#17
thx for ALL the comments - they are truely appreciated.....
as for the comments re 8k brake jobs after a few months of driving - try doing a 5k brake job after TWO days of hard track driving. thats what my buddy did with his GT-R.
THE GT-R at this stage for all its relative stealth is also a HUGE unknown WRT repair costs etc.
ONE final question - is the x50 really worth it or is a GIAC chipped non x50 just as quick?
as for the comments re 8k brake jobs after a few months of driving - try doing a 5k brake job after TWO days of hard track driving. thats what my buddy did with his GT-R.
THE GT-R at this stage for all its relative stealth is also a HUGE unknown WRT repair costs etc.
ONE final question - is the x50 really worth it or is a GIAC chipped non x50 just as quick?
#18
I have owned 3 997 Turbos (TipS and 6 speed, heavily modded and light-modded), and 2 996 TTs including my current Ruf RTurbo (dynos at over 600 hp).
The 997TT is a better crafted car, but is more sterile. I don't like the center console in the 997 - I like the 'cockpit' in the 996 TT. Even with slight mods, the 997TT feels like a very tame car, not as much of a 'sports car' feel as the 996 TT. However, the 997TT will make a better daily driver IMHO.
Echoing what others have said on the forum, you can buy a nice 996TT at a much lower price. They are reliable, and are a much better deal. My recommendation is buy a 996TT and save money if you going for a sports car, get a 997TT if you want more of a Grand Touring car that goes fast but is not as involving.
The 997TT is a better crafted car, but is more sterile. I don't like the center console in the 997 - I like the 'cockpit' in the 996 TT. Even with slight mods, the 997TT feels like a very tame car, not as much of a 'sports car' feel as the 996 TT. However, the 997TT will make a better daily driver IMHO.
Echoing what others have said on the forum, you can buy a nice 996TT at a much lower price. They are reliable, and are a much better deal. My recommendation is buy a 996TT and save money if you going for a sports car, get a 997TT if you want more of a Grand Touring car that goes fast but is not as involving.