Ferrari 360
12-06-2002, 09:05 PM
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I love the 360 but the problem with it is this and only this. Its about $100k more to find one.
Sticker to Sticker the 360 is a great car, however getting one at sticker will require a 2-3 year wait and by then they will have stopped production. I tried to find one close to sticker price for a new car, and can't. Dealers still wnat over 200k for that car and at that price I owuld rather have a new Murcialgo, it is more excluisve and with the reifinments made to the Lambo it is a much nicer car then teh VT and on par with the 360 as far as build goes.
So that been said; 360 great car, sticker to sticker defianlty as nice if not nicer then the TT, however they are not sticker and for the price difference for market value, they are not worth the price they are commanding.
Sticker to Sticker the 360 is a great car, however getting one at sticker will require a 2-3 year wait and by then they will have stopped production. I tried to find one close to sticker price for a new car, and can't. Dealers still wnat over 200k for that car and at that price I owuld rather have a new Murcialgo, it is more excluisve and with the reifinments made to the Lambo it is a much nicer car then teh VT and on par with the 360 as far as build goes.
So that been said; 360 great car, sticker to sticker defianlty as nice if not nicer then the TT, however they are not sticker and for the price difference for market value, they are not worth the price they are commanding.
12-07-2002, 02:35 PM
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Hey cos. I only paid sticker for my 360. The wait was one year. Try Continental in Chicago. It pays to shop around. Ask for Keith 630.655.3535. I'm getting to old to bend over and fall into it anymore. The 575 was designed for us geezers. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> tom
12-07-2002, 04:32 PM
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CAR Magazine did a short comparison between the 996 TT and a Ferrari 360 coupe a while ago, and came to the conclusion that the cars are in a ifferent league to each other. The 360 is more like the GT3 and the TT is more like a 456GT (only a little cheaper).
12-15-2002, 09:20 PM
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Hi All,
Sorry to join this thread so late but I just joined Rennlist and can maybe add something to the original post request.
I had bought a new 1999 Ferrari Spider with the F1 trans. The media were right when they said that the 355 offered the best sound anywhere from a showroom stock car. It would give a howl or shrieking sound that only comes with higher revs (redline 8500). And top down, at full throttle, you could hear hissing air intake & mechanical noises through the hood louvers right behind you,accompanying the fantastic exhaust. Going thru tunnels or long underpasses was other-worldly.
Traded the 355 on a new 360 Spider in May, 2001. (red/tan with Daytona seats) With the 360, they quieted down the exhaust,I believe to pass newer European drive-by criteria. But the 360 sounded full and fine above 6000.
I put a Tubi exhaust on with the annual service. Made the tone much deeper and powerful sounding. Seemed designed for the "Hey look at me" crowd for cruising their local drives. But was wonderful on the track.
On the 360, they dumbed down the F1 up-shift, supposedly to make the car more tractable in city traffic. In the 355, the upshifts in "Sport" mode were quite abrupt and harsh, but still okay. "Sport" mode on both cars stiffened the suspension for very flat cornering (esp the 360), and shortened the shift time from 1/4+ sec to 1/7th sec.
But for this to happen, the accelerator had to be floored, and the shift made above 7000 revs. The whole 355 literally shuddered with each upshift at about 8500 accelerating on the straights.
On the 360, they toned this down in "normal" mode, and unless I had a defective car, it never was happy in traffic. I avoided driving in much traffic with the F1, but others may have fared better. The clutch would smell, grab, etc. To Ferrari North America's credit, they replaced the clutch on warranty w/o my asking at its one year service last April.
The 360"s performance limits are so high I don't think anyone can come near exploring them (or most Porsches)on public roads. But when I took it to controlled track days or D.E. days, the F1 seemed VERY effective. It lets you concentrate on braking,and line while selecting a gear quicker and with less strain on the car. The downshifts are incredible. During all this, at speed,you are quite "connected with the car" and whats happening.
One unexpected downside: The 360 Spider can attract too much attention in public
The disappearing conv. top attracts crowds who are amazed at the number of moving parts. ( made me appreciate the simplicity of the Boxsters we had).
The car handled wonderfully on a track. Got the feeling that,like the Boxster, the chassis could use even more power esp. torque. The 360 seemed slightly detached perhaps bc it was considerably heavier than the Boxster and not as nimble. But whenever I checked, it was way faster than the Boxster at any given place on the track.
Except on the straights, I drove it gingerly at < 8/10, since one third of the 2.7 mi. road course in Calgary is lined with concrete walls.
Did the D.E. days top down. At the end of the half mile straight at 145mph, the turbulence would buffet my helment. A 2001 Twin Turbo had no trouble doing 150.
Sold the 360 with mixed feeling at end of June this year. I live 800 miles from the closest Ferrari dealer, in Vancouver, B.C. where I bought both cars. Service and other issues with this dealer spoiled the ownership experience for me.
Because of the distance and my short season, I required that the car be thoroughly serviced, shipping it both ways by enclosed trucking.
Instead, when I got it back, a local mechanic noted that the dealer service had left off one of the nuts holding the transmission to the block and both metal shields rubbed on the inner half-shaft CV.s.
Which is why I'm in this group now, hoping to get your advice on my next car.
Regards,
Bob Drew
Sorry to join this thread so late but I just joined Rennlist and can maybe add something to the original post request.
I had bought a new 1999 Ferrari Spider with the F1 trans. The media were right when they said that the 355 offered the best sound anywhere from a showroom stock car. It would give a howl or shrieking sound that only comes with higher revs (redline 8500). And top down, at full throttle, you could hear hissing air intake & mechanical noises through the hood louvers right behind you,accompanying the fantastic exhaust. Going thru tunnels or long underpasses was other-worldly.
Traded the 355 on a new 360 Spider in May, 2001. (red/tan with Daytona seats) With the 360, they quieted down the exhaust,I believe to pass newer European drive-by criteria. But the 360 sounded full and fine above 6000.
I put a Tubi exhaust on with the annual service. Made the tone much deeper and powerful sounding. Seemed designed for the "Hey look at me" crowd for cruising their local drives. But was wonderful on the track.
On the 360, they dumbed down the F1 up-shift, supposedly to make the car more tractable in city traffic. In the 355, the upshifts in "Sport" mode were quite abrupt and harsh, but still okay. "Sport" mode on both cars stiffened the suspension for very flat cornering (esp the 360), and shortened the shift time from 1/4+ sec to 1/7th sec.
But for this to happen, the accelerator had to be floored, and the shift made above 7000 revs. The whole 355 literally shuddered with each upshift at about 8500 accelerating on the straights.
On the 360, they toned this down in "normal" mode, and unless I had a defective car, it never was happy in traffic. I avoided driving in much traffic with the F1, but others may have fared better. The clutch would smell, grab, etc. To Ferrari North America's credit, they replaced the clutch on warranty w/o my asking at its one year service last April.
The 360"s performance limits are so high I don't think anyone can come near exploring them (or most Porsches)on public roads. But when I took it to controlled track days or D.E. days, the F1 seemed VERY effective. It lets you concentrate on braking,and line while selecting a gear quicker and with less strain on the car. The downshifts are incredible. During all this, at speed,you are quite "connected with the car" and whats happening.
One unexpected downside: The 360 Spider can attract too much attention in public
The disappearing conv. top attracts crowds who are amazed at the number of moving parts. ( made me appreciate the simplicity of the Boxsters we had).
The car handled wonderfully on a track. Got the feeling that,like the Boxster, the chassis could use even more power esp. torque. The 360 seemed slightly detached perhaps bc it was considerably heavier than the Boxster and not as nimble. But whenever I checked, it was way faster than the Boxster at any given place on the track.
Except on the straights, I drove it gingerly at < 8/10, since one third of the 2.7 mi. road course in Calgary is lined with concrete walls.
Did the D.E. days top down. At the end of the half mile straight at 145mph, the turbulence would buffet my helment. A 2001 Twin Turbo had no trouble doing 150.
Sold the 360 with mixed feeling at end of June this year. I live 800 miles from the closest Ferrari dealer, in Vancouver, B.C. where I bought both cars. Service and other issues with this dealer spoiled the ownership experience for me.
Because of the distance and my short season, I required that the car be thoroughly serviced, shipping it both ways by enclosed trucking.
Instead, when I got it back, a local mechanic noted that the dealer service had left off one of the nuts holding the transmission to the block and both metal shields rubbed on the inner half-shaft CV.s.
Which is why I'm in this group now, hoping to get your advice on my next car.
Regards,
Bob Drew
12-16-2002, 02:25 AM
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I currently have a 993TT and constantly hit my helmet on the roof at track events. I'm 6 foot tall. Is this a problem in the 360 and 996TT? I am considering both as replacement for 993TT.
12-16-2002, 10:42 AM
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Sunroof delete option will fix your next TT for helmet clearance.
12-16-2002, 10:07 PM
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9on1,
I'm 6'3 and have just gone to a 996 TT and there is bunch more head room. I'm also having the sunroof removed right now because on the 996's is only $250 for the roof and very cheap to install. The biggest expense is the head liner. 360's are pretty good but I don't think they have as much head room as a 996 w/o roof
I'm 6'3 and have just gone to a 996 TT and there is bunch more head room. I'm also having the sunroof removed right now because on the 996's is only $250 for the roof and very cheap to install. The biggest expense is the head liner. 360's are pretty good but I don't think they have as much head room as a 996 w/o roof
12-17-2002, 10:47 AM
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Helmet headroom on a 2001 360 Spider w. top up:
I had the Daytona seats. Set the electric seats to lowest pos'n.
Also raking the seatback aft helped, (but you wouldn't want to mess too much w. driver's positioning.)
I'm just under 6' tall and the helmet would just clear the headliner and convertible framing. Would probably cause some shafing after many hours. Ran mostly top down ( the roll bar is higher than the Boxsters).
I first sat in a Modena before confirming my Spider order and it seemed to have ample head-room. Seated in a prospective car, I use a dumb test of seeing if I can put my fist ( or part thereof ) over my head. Will be close but okay w a TT & sport seat.
That's for a spider, but Modena owners can better advise you here, incl non-elec. seats, and the racing seats.
Bob Drew
I had the Daytona seats. Set the electric seats to lowest pos'n.
Also raking the seatback aft helped, (but you wouldn't want to mess too much w. driver's positioning.)
I'm just under 6' tall and the helmet would just clear the headliner and convertible framing. Would probably cause some shafing after many hours. Ran mostly top down ( the roll bar is higher than the Boxsters).
I first sat in a Modena before confirming my Spider order and it seemed to have ample head-room. Seated in a prospective car, I use a dumb test of seeing if I can put my fist ( or part thereof ) over my head. Will be close but okay w a TT & sport seat.
That's for a spider, but Modena owners can better advise you here, incl non-elec. seats, and the racing seats.
Bob Drew
