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Old 11-25-2002, 10:52 PM
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Question Camber plates?

Anyone know of a good insulated camber plates? Preferably indexable. I have been looking but have found only solid monoball types. Don't want the excess vibration, but would like more neg camber upfront.

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Thanks cjv, Outside of the noise, how's the vibrations? I there much through the steering wheel compared to stock?
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[quote]Originally posted by Oak:
<strong>Anyone know of a good insulated camber plates? Preferably indexable. I have been looking but have found only solid monoball types. Don't want the excess vibration, but would like more neg camber upfront.

TIA</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oak:

There are no such things as insulated or isolated Camberplates/Monoballs. These are all racing parts and as such, would not be effective nor would there be a need for such a thing.

Many front Camberplates are indexed with markings but they are not precisely calibrated for camber & caster.

They do introduce more noise and vibration into the car and you should make a point to ride in one for awhile, so equipped. Since these issues are subjective in nature, you are the only one who will know if you can handle that or not.
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Steve, Thanks for the info. Maybe someone should design and make some. You probably would sell quite a few. I have used insulated camber plates on other vehicles with excellent results.

There are probably more people in the market that would desire more adjustability than what the stock can provide, but don't want the added noise, and vibration of the solids.

I definatly think there is a market for them.

Some one should jump on it.
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Before you go to more negative camber, ask yourself if your suspension is stiff enough and if you really want that much camber. The softer the suspension, the more camber you would need.

The factory US 030 allows about - 0.5 deg in front. It needs more. The X74 allows - 1.5 deg in front which seems right on the car with the stiffer suspension. The ROW 030 is supposedly in the middle.
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Sorry, on your car it would be X73. Or have you considered H&R or other coil overs?
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[quote]Originally posted by Ed Newman:
<strong>Sorry, on your car it would be X73. Or have you considered H&R or other coil overs?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hi Ed, yes that's where I'm at presently. Full H&R coil overs, GT3 adjustable sways. Need another -1 would be nice! With out all the noise/vibration. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Oak,

Regarding "street" H&R coilovers. A few months ago
I wanted to install GT2 monoballs. What I found out is that GT2 monoballs do not work with
H&R "street", apparently because of the conical spring in the front. Bummer.

So you may want to be extra carefull.
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VS, Thanks for the heads up. I did look into them, but wasn't interested with the solid set up. But didn't know they aren't applicable. Was almost considering them again.

I think there is a market if someone would design one. It will transform the handling tremendously.

Let me know if you come across someone that is fabricating them! <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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One solution is to consider replacing your stock lower track control arms with the GT3 adjustable arms. The GT3 club sport came with these arms with rubber mounts, I believe the part numbers are 996.341.122.90 and 996 341.121.90 but, I'm not sure if that number is for the complete arm. This would allow you to shim the lower arm outward to get the desired camber without gaining additional road noise. If you really wanted to do upper plates I could (and have) convert some stock plates to have more camber. The problem is, you are then limited by the diameter of the large factory spring which will hit the inner fender if you go too far and you would also have to cut the area on the chassis where the shock attachment bolt comes through (as done on GT3RS's). Personally I’ve always like the “Bolt-On” approach apposed to cutting up the car. Let me know if I can be of further help

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Going back to this camber plate issue, does anyone have them on their car? If so, did you notice if the car was raised a bit by using them? The camber plates I got from Evo looks thicker a bit than the stock spring hats, and I was trying to research if this is a cause why when I put turbo shocks on my C2 with turbo camber plates, eibach lowering springs designed for a C2 resulted in a higher stance.

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964 camber plates should be the same as 965. The only difference is the 965's are rotated 180 degrees when installed. The other problem is difficult to answer without seeing the parts. The problem being there are so many after market companys making parts and most are differnt and when you start combining parts you really have to watch it. However, I would think that you'd have enough adjustment on your strut to make up for the slight differences. Just make sure you still have ample shock tavel. Hope that helps.



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