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Old 04-20-2006, 07:01 PM
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Is the viper fun? Well just a tad Nothing like racing a car that's over 1000hp! Here's a roll on video of me vs. Cobra just using my mid tune on 100 octane:

http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...CBFBC0B0AC.htm

And yes.... per Stephen my turbos are K16 based stage 2 CNCed.
Old 04-20-2006, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ebaker
A GT700 kit should be close to 600rwhp with race gas.
It actually will make 600rwhp on pump gas and probably 630-640rwhp on race
Old 04-20-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodster
600 Wheel Horsepower !!

That is a lofty but very "doable goal"
You are talking much more than GT700 that Ebaker mentioned
(see recent dyno day on 6speed online: GT700 had about 565 at the wheels)
You will have an absolute killer and like PP says (above) you really want an absolute
montster at this level. I/A motor like the man Stephen himself or
GT800 type motor or just be done with it and give Todd and Cynthia a call.
(ala Marksi, VR Alex, Divexxtreme, etc)
MK
the 565 was at all for wheels
Old 04-20-2006, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PorschePhD
At 600 AWD HP there is no question you need to open up the motor and secure the rods, headstuds, valve springs etc. You are asking for a real problem if you don't. 500-520 RWHP is not that hard to achieve peak numbers in this area and be safe. I ran about 30K miles like this. However 600 crank verses wheels is a whole another story. Do not be fooled there is no free lunch. If you are looking for that kind of power a budget of 40K at least will be needed. My car with all the mods on my AWD dyno hits 592 AWHP. That is a doable, but tall order. Then you have a clutch to deal with and so on.

Look at the goals that you are trying to achieve then map out a plan with a tuner that best suits your goals, objectives and can deliver. Guys like my self who drive these every day rain, snow or shine can tell you how each kit responds and what issues may or may not come up during ownership of certain HP levels.
Stephen,

I was under the impression from you and Todd that the gt700 kit does not require engine work, especially if your not going to track the car?

Jags
Old 04-20-2006, 11:49 PM
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Jags, 600AWHP is about 800HP and that will require an engine build. What you are looking at is not the 800 kit.
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Originally Posted by markski
How to calculate engine numbers: On a 996TT, the calculation for wheel horsepower (WHP) to engine horsepower (EHP) is about 12-15%. For our calculations, we use the 12.5% which is a very conservative figure. To calculate EHP, simply multiply the WHP by 12.5%. For example: if the car produces 500 WHP x 12.5% = 562 EHP [return to top]
Not exactly...to go from wheel power to crank power using a 12.5% correction factor, you have to divide the wheel number by .875. So a car with 500 WHP would have 571.43 flywheel hp.
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Originally Posted by Dock
Not exactly...to go from wheel power to crank power using a 12.5% correction factor, you have to divide the wheel number by .875. So a car with 500 WHP would have 571.43 flywheel hp.
I quoted EVOMS figures above...
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Originally Posted by PorschePhD
Jags, 600AWHP is about 800HP and that will require an engine build. What you are looking at is not the 800 kit.

Ok so is a engine rebuild required for a 600 rwhp car?
Old 04-21-2006, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jags911tt
Ok so is a engine rebuild required for a 600 rwhp car?
no.... the gt700 doesnt... nor does Protomotives set up running close to 600 rwhp...
a 600AWHP - YES
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Originally Posted by markski
I quoted EVOMS figures above...
It's the math...divide versus multiply to go from wheel to crank.
Old 04-21-2006, 09:51 AM
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Hm, I may have gone about asking these questions the wrong way. What I probably should have written was: please list the mods necessary to achieve the highest AWHP/TQ w/o breaking into the engine,

Yes, SW's a buddy of mine & works 2 blocks away, lives 2 miles away. I go by there most every day tinkering with my turbo 928.
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Mark, I like your last question better, much easier to answer and I think it already has been.
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Mark,

DV's, turbos (K24 or k16 Hybrids), programming, exhaust including HF cats, headers, intake. That's it.

I guess I could back up and ask...what do you do with the car? How many miles do you drive it? You could consider bigger setups if it sees a few thousand miles a year and that is it.
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Thanks Stephen, PM me a typical quote if you can. It's premature for me, but will get me planning.

Also, what kind of HP/TQ/track times (since that's the easiest to gauge by) can I expect with the above assuming full K24's & headers (read that one a while back).

This will be a near-daily driver, seeing 15k a year, so need to stay somewhat reliable, not that I've read otherwise typically.



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