AWD system...
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Captain you have done exactly what I have considered doing for a while! Good to know my theories would have played out!
My research has shown the 991.1 front diff to be considerably cheaper than the 997 PTM diffs.
I would love to confirm the 991 dimensions still fit into a 996.
My ideas for this diff are for the safari builds. In low speed mud a manual locking function would be ideal. My concern is with the final drive ratios. Most safaris are running a square tire setup. The 996’s 3.44/3.44 works ok for this, but I haven’t seen any data to prove a square setup will last on the 997’s 3.33/3.44 ratio.
I’d like to determine whether the PTM will burn up with a square setup over time.
I would consider machining together 3.44 996 diff/pinions into 991 housings, and packaging it with the necessary hardware to drive the diff.
My research has shown the 991.1 front diff to be considerably cheaper than the 997 PTM diffs.
I would love to confirm the 991 dimensions still fit into a 996.
My ideas for this diff are for the safari builds. In low speed mud a manual locking function would be ideal. My concern is with the final drive ratios. Most safaris are running a square tire setup. The 996’s 3.44/3.44 works ok for this, but I haven’t seen any data to prove a square setup will last on the 997’s 3.33/3.44 ratio.
I’d like to determine whether the PTM will burn up with a square setup over time.
I would consider machining together 3.44 996 diff/pinions into 991 housings, and packaging it with the necessary hardware to drive the diff.
For a square setup I'd just monitor temp and you could probably even map it with the controller via temp. Most of the times you'll need AWD will be for short sprints at lower speeds. You could map it to go more RWD with speed which should make sure to keep the temps down.
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The controller for my diff defaults to spending most of it's time open (no power to front wheels). It only sends power forward during acceleration or maneuvering. It does have a manual mode where I can "lock" the differential at any percentage of torque transfer I want. I never use this functionality except when I was playing with the car in the snow since it's not really the intended use case for this all wheel drive system.
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RWD VS AWD...
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
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The controller for my diff defaults to spending most of it's time open (no power to front wheels). It only sends power forward during acceleration or maneuvering. It does have a manual mode where I can "lock" the differential at any percentage of torque transfer I want. I never use this functionality except when I was playing with the car in the snow since it's not really the intended use case for this all wheel drive system.
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RWD VS AWD...
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
That being said, a proper set of tyres would have helped the situation immensely.
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As said I doubt there is any significant difference in maintenance expenses with AWD vs RWD. The AWD system on 996's is designed to step in when the rear has zero traction and let you steer the car. It won't do anything in super slippery conditions; you can find videos on youtube of 996's that are stuck in small amounts of snow.
The AWD is fairly magical on high speed corners though. It feels like the road angels are pulling the front of the car in the proper direction.
In any kind of snow proper tires are a must. Winter tires, plus having the engine weight on the rear tires is enough to get through a fair amount of snow. The car is low and will plow up an impenetrable wall of snow if there is more than a couple inches on the ground.
I live in Massachusetts and would not want to have a 996 of any sort as my only car. I would not want it covered in the magnesium chloride that's now used for roads. I also think that its limitations in snow, given the low ride height and lack of decent winter tires, would make it less practical. Although the roads are cleared within a few hours of the snow stopping so that may be less of a concern.
The AWD is fairly magical on high speed corners though. It feels like the road angels are pulling the front of the car in the proper direction.
In any kind of snow proper tires are a must. Winter tires, plus having the engine weight on the rear tires is enough to get through a fair amount of snow. The car is low and will plow up an impenetrable wall of snow if there is more than a couple inches on the ground.
I live in Massachusetts and would not want to have a 996 of any sort as my only car. I would not want it covered in the magnesium chloride that's now used for roads. I also think that its limitations in snow, given the low ride height and lack of decent winter tires, would make it less practical. Although the roads are cleared within a few hours of the snow stopping so that may be less of a concern.
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RWD VS AWD...
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
Between RWD vs AWD which is more reliable and durable in the long run i.e. long term maintenance costs ?
Is there a big difference in handling in wet weather rainy conditions between RWD vs AWD and what are they?
Have any of you got caught out in a snow storm in either a RWD or AWD Porsche and how did it fair ?
How does Porsche's AWD system compare to Acura/Honda's Super Handling-All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) on the Acura NSX, and Toyota's AWD systems?
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I have played with it a bit to familiarize myself with it, but I have found the default maps to be sufficient for me so far. If I recall correctly I use the Tarmac map most of the time with the **** set around 40%. I also have the Rain map loaded but I've only driven the car in the rain a couple times since I installed the 997 diff so I haven't tested this map much.
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That's good to know; it will be interesting to see (or hear from you) the differences between tarmac and rain... this is clearly more advanced than the one in the sti.