Replica GT2 front bumper
12-10-2003, 04:37 PM
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Replica GT2 front bumper
I am thinking of replacing my damaged front bumper(2002 996 TT) with a replica GT2 front bumper. Does anyone know which source would be the best in terms of quality/price? Would changing the front bumper affect the aerodynamics of the car? I have a larger wing in the rear(from Techart?) that just replaces the stock wing, so that it still goes up and down.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
12-10-2003, 07:23 PM
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Anzianos in Costa Mesa, CA or NR Auto in the valley both have replica GT2 bumpers. They are both around $2K + paint/install. Expensive, but beats $4K++ from Porsche.
I have been told that it is STRONGLY recommended that you use the GT2 wing with a GT2 front because the extra downforce from the front bumper needs to be balanced by the wing. In normal driving it should not be an issue, but at track speeds it might cause problems.
I have been told that it is STRONGLY recommended that you use the GT2 wing with a GT2 front because the extra downforce from the front bumper needs to be balanced by the wing. In normal driving it should not be an issue, but at track speeds it might cause problems.
12-10-2003, 08:11 PM
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Ryan,
My car has a larger wing that looks to be about the size of the Porsche aero package rear wing. Do you think that would help the situation?
My car has a larger wing that looks to be about the size of the Porsche aero package rear wing. Do you think that would help the situation?
12-10-2003, 08:32 PM
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Jlee,
I am by no means a physics expert, but if the large wing you have actually exerts a greater downforce than the factory wing, then yes, I'm sure it will be just fine.
Still, without proper wind-tunnel tested parts, I would not want to be careening down the front straight of Willow Springs @ 140+MPH.
I've seen ads for Shaw, but I know nothing about him. I have however been to Anzianos shop and I can tell you that he does nothing but Porsche all day long.
Anzianos parts are all fiberglass rather than polyurethane. The advantage of this is that fiberglass parts are less expensive to produce than GOOD polyurethane parts. Many "lesser" shops use polyurethane that came out of a CHEAP, poorly made mold and therefore they compensate by making the parts 2-3 times thicker than they need to be, adding quite a bit of extra weight to the car.
The expensive polyurethane aero products (like Porsche Aerokit) use molds that cost up to $50K. Most mom & pop shops are not interested in invensting in this kind of money.
As an aside, Anzianos actually sells his aero parts to many other resellers (like NR Auto), so depending where you go, you might wind up buying an Anziano product anyway.
I am by no means a physics expert, but if the large wing you have actually exerts a greater downforce than the factory wing, then yes, I'm sure it will be just fine.
Still, without proper wind-tunnel tested parts, I would not want to be careening down the front straight of Willow Springs @ 140+MPH.
I've seen ads for Shaw, but I know nothing about him. I have however been to Anzianos shop and I can tell you that he does nothing but Porsche all day long.
Anzianos parts are all fiberglass rather than polyurethane. The advantage of this is that fiberglass parts are less expensive to produce than GOOD polyurethane parts. Many "lesser" shops use polyurethane that came out of a CHEAP, poorly made mold and therefore they compensate by making the parts 2-3 times thicker than they need to be, adding quite a bit of extra weight to the car.
The expensive polyurethane aero products (like Porsche Aerokit) use molds that cost up to $50K. Most mom & pop shops are not interested in invensting in this kind of money.
As an aside, Anzianos actually sells his aero parts to many other resellers (like NR Auto), so depending where you go, you might wind up buying an Anziano product anyway.
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i hope thusly speaks up before you do this. he did a proper gt2 fron conversion and it was a nightmare. some will just throw it on, but to do right, a royal pain, big expense, lots of parts and time.
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12-11-2003, 01:03 PM
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There are several people on Rennlist that say to stay away from Anzianos and I can't figure out why.
I visited his shop, and Bob is a very straight shooter with LOTS of car conversions under his belt. What precisely is the mysterious problem I keep hearing of?
I just hope this isnt another "Upsolute" warning where people say to stay away for no particular reason when the product is just great.
I visited his shop, and Bob is a very straight shooter with LOTS of car conversions under his belt. What precisely is the mysterious problem I keep hearing of?
I just hope this isnt another "Upsolute" warning where people say to stay away for no particular reason when the product is just great.
12-11-2003, 01:56 PM
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From what I have been able to gather so far, I am under the impression that putting a GT2 bumper(or replica) is a fairly straight forward bolt-on operation if I am not concerned about repositioning the mechanical parts within/behind the brumper. Am I missing something here?
