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have autometric or robit weld on in.
the club sport cage is mediocre
i had a cup cage duplicsated and welded in my 996gt3, which i flew over a fence on track, car done, but i didnt have a bruise.
the club sport cage is mediocre
i had a cup cage duplicsated and welded in my 996gt3, which i flew over a fence on track, car done, but i didnt have a bruise.
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Originally Posted by mooty
have autometric or robit weld on in.
the club sport cage is mediocre
i had a cup cage duplicsated and welded in my 996gt3, which i flew over a fence on track, car done, but i didnt have a bruise.
the club sport cage is mediocre
i had a cup cage duplicsated and welded in my 996gt3, which i flew over a fence on track, car done, but i didnt have a bruise.
I'll look into duplicate cup cage. Will be hard to keep doors and other stuff stock?
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Your best bet is to have one custom made from a good fabricator. The 996 Cup cage is OK, but there's a lot to be gained by getting a little clever with notching parts of the car.
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Cutting the dash, no carpet ? How soon do you need it done ? We've got a CNC aided tubing bender and can build something "cup-like", it'll likely be quite a bit more than the Stable option but tailored for you.
Not a GT3 or road race car but just some of the fun fabrication we've done in the past.
Not a GT3 or road race car but just some of the fun fabrication we've done in the past.
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....guess this depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to retain of street car in the process.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
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Originally Posted by AudiOn19s
....guess this depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to retain of street car in the process.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
I'll try to keep the interior in place. Will likely go for a custom made solution that copies the 997 clubsport. The double armed front section looks pretty rigid. Cutting some holes in the carpet is not the end of the world, but removing everything from the doors and headliner is a different thing.
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....guess this depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to retain of street car in the process.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
The bolt-in options like Safety devices and the factory clubsport cage will allow you to keep the full interior with minor modification while with adding front hoop protection and OK (not great) side protection. Also minimal effort in disassembly to the interior to get them installed. Bolt together solutions are a compromise but still better than no front cage at all. I almost bought a car with a safety devices cage in it but ultimately passed for other reasons.
Full built custom cage like a cup car cage is going to require you to fully gut the interior of the car for installation and will be much more challenging to put alot of that interior back. In addition most cage builders are at a minimum going to have you pull the front and rear glass for the build and some will ask you to pull the roof skin from the car too. It's an involved process to do it right but it's the ultimate in safety. If you go this route it's in your best bet to build NASCAR style door bars that extend away from the driver and into the door which means gutting the doors and or cup doors...which means no more power windows either and in some solutions no windows at all.
yes, cup car
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Some great advice here.
Thanks guys for all advice. I've told myself I will buy cup car when I do wheel to wheel racing.
Will try to figure out solution to fit a front section without to much digging into panels. Car is on its way to Europe for the summer so won't be a problem to run lexan windows and cup doors while touring European tracks. Gets more complicating once car returns to USA.
Thanks guys for all advice. I've told myself I will buy cup car when I do wheel to wheel racing.
Will try to figure out solution to fit a front section without to much digging into panels. Car is on its way to Europe for the summer so won't be a problem to run lexan windows and cup doors while touring European tracks. Gets more complicating once car returns to USA.
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I had a safety devices cage in my 996gt3. Definitely had plenty of clearance relative to the interior with no cutting including the dashboard. Made getting in and out of a fixed race seat with a halo quite difficult. Decided to upgrade to a clubsport as egress was demonstrably easier when tested out in another GT3 with similar set up. Feel "better" now. But know that i will eventually go to a weld-in with NASCAR style safety.