2004 GT2 a laugher
08-14-2003, 12:51 PM
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2004 GT2 a laugher
Stuttgart. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, of Stuttgart, Germany has taken a further step forward in its current model offensive. This most powerful version of the 911 now has even higher performance and is the sixth launch this year, following the 911 GT3, Carrera 4S Cabriolet, 911 Turbo Cabriolet, GT3 RS and the 40th anniversary 911 model. The 911 GT2 available when the 2004 model year starts has a power output of 483 bhp (355 kW), an increase of 21 hp (15 kW) on the previous model, making it even more athletic and faster. The GT2 will be available from Porsche Centers from October on.
The increase in performance has been achieved by detailed improvements to the electronic engine management maps, yielding an increase of 20 Nm in maximum torque to 640 Nm between 3,500 rpm and 4,500 rpm. With a power-to-weight ratio of 4.06 kilograms per kilowatt, it now takes the rear-wheel drive GT2 only 4 seconds to accelerate from a standstill to 100 km/h and only 12.5 seconds from 0 to 200 km/h. Its maximum speed is 319 km/h, making the GT2 for the 2004 model year 4 km/h faster than its predecessor. Its exhaust emission values are similar to those of the 911 Turbo and it complies easily with the stringent D4 standards. These are equivalent to the EURO 4 standard test limits that will not become mandatory until January 1, 2005. As a matter of course, the GT2 also satisfies the US LEV standard.
Extreme sports-car performance was a clear priority when this powerful turbocharged model was developed. This is why, in addition to the power output increase, the front and rear suspension has been optimized as well, with modified springs/shock absorbers and brake system. The car now has even more sensitive four-channel ABS for effective anti-lock braking.
The boldly styled, aerodynamically advanced rear wing is available in unpainted carbon fiber upon request. It weighs 2.8 kilograms less and is standard on the Clubsport version. The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package.
The 2004 GT2 generation sets itself apart with the new GT3-style wheels, which are 8.5 inches wide at the front and 12 inches at the rear. They are shod with size 235/40 R 18 tires at the front and 315/30 R 18 at the rear.
The new GT2 also comes with the “Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake” (PCCB) system as standard. The ceramic brake disks weigh 50 percent less than similarly sized metal disks, thus reducing the car’s unsprung weight by some 18 kilograms. “PCCB” disks are available as an optional extra for the 911 Turbo, GT3 (with naturally aspirated engine) and Carrera 4S.
The list price for the 911 GT2 will be 159,100 Euro (excluding VAT and country-specific requirements). The selling price to the customer will be 184,674 Euro including VAT in Germany and 191,700 US $ (plus tax) in the US.
what morons using a non-differentiated wheel. at least they're lighter. Boxster style "updates" rather than substantive improvements.
The increase in performance has been achieved by detailed improvements to the electronic engine management maps, yielding an increase of 20 Nm in maximum torque to 640 Nm between 3,500 rpm and 4,500 rpm. With a power-to-weight ratio of 4.06 kilograms per kilowatt, it now takes the rear-wheel drive GT2 only 4 seconds to accelerate from a standstill to 100 km/h and only 12.5 seconds from 0 to 200 km/h. Its maximum speed is 319 km/h, making the GT2 for the 2004 model year 4 km/h faster than its predecessor. Its exhaust emission values are similar to those of the 911 Turbo and it complies easily with the stringent D4 standards. These are equivalent to the EURO 4 standard test limits that will not become mandatory until January 1, 2005. As a matter of course, the GT2 also satisfies the US LEV standard.
Extreme sports-car performance was a clear priority when this powerful turbocharged model was developed. This is why, in addition to the power output increase, the front and rear suspension has been optimized as well, with modified springs/shock absorbers and brake system. The car now has even more sensitive four-channel ABS for effective anti-lock braking.
The boldly styled, aerodynamically advanced rear wing is available in unpainted carbon fiber upon request. It weighs 2.8 kilograms less and is standard on the Clubsport version. The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package.
The 2004 GT2 generation sets itself apart with the new GT3-style wheels, which are 8.5 inches wide at the front and 12 inches at the rear. They are shod with size 235/40 R 18 tires at the front and 315/30 R 18 at the rear.
The new GT2 also comes with the “Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake” (PCCB) system as standard. The ceramic brake disks weigh 50 percent less than similarly sized metal disks, thus reducing the car’s unsprung weight by some 18 kilograms. “PCCB” disks are available as an optional extra for the 911 Turbo, GT3 (with naturally aspirated engine) and Carrera 4S.
The list price for the 911 GT2 will be 159,100 Euro (excluding VAT and country-specific requirements). The selling price to the customer will be 184,674 Euro including VAT in Germany and 191,700 US $ (plus tax) in the US.
what morons using a non-differentiated wheel. at least they're lighter. Boxster style "updates" rather than substantive improvements.
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08-14-2003, 02:39 PM
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"The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package"
this is wheel waxer and ***** sh*t.
Porsche is in deep deep product trouble; saturating each market with excess volume and bogus "look" model tweaks.
this is wheel waxer and ***** sh*t.
Porsche is in deep deep product trouble; saturating each market with excess volume and bogus "look" model tweaks.
08-14-2003, 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by watt
"The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package"
this is wheel waxer and ***** sh*t.
Porsche is in deep deep product trouble; saturating each market with excess volume and bogus "look" model tweaks.
"The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package"
this is wheel waxer and ***** sh*t.
Porsche is in deep deep product trouble; saturating each market with excess volume and bogus "look" model tweaks.
Dealer friend told me last week that Porsche was supposedly only going to bring in 8 or 9 '04 GT2's into the U.S. Limited production, 21 more horsies, 14.7 more ft-lbs of torque, the new Michelin Pilot SP2 tires, carbon look mirror and tail and only a $10K increase in the base price -- it's a steal! 
BTW, just get the Fikse wheels.
08-14-2003, 03:16 PM
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jack,
they are smokin' hash over there!
i'll take a lighter tail.
a Ruf convert for 20 would give us 550 HP and T?
Dieter's doing my suspension...
no interest.
you better get a Gallardo!!!
they are smokin' hash over there!
i'll take a lighter tail.
a Ruf convert for 20 would give us 550 HP and T?
Dieter's doing my suspension...
no interest.
you better get a Gallardo!!!
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08-14-2003, 04:02 PM
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I recall another manufacturer who USED TO do the same thing.
Repackage models as "new and improved" see General Motors.
And they have lost market share in almost every sector every year running.
Anyways, Porsche should wake up.
Wiedeking was in the Financial Times this past Tuesday.
In the article they talked about their profits, and in particular the GT3 profits - 50,000 Euros per model is their profit.
I have been VERY VERY vocal about this issue in the past (have muted myself since) have pissed off people in this forum b/c of them.
But to me, I think we have already seen the climax for Porsche in the 993 Turbo.
I think everything here on in is a step in the downhill position for Porsche.
I mean, even the CGT, it really doesnt turn my crank, like a $600,000 car should.
Repackage models as "new and improved" see General Motors.
And they have lost market share in almost every sector every year running.
Anyways, Porsche should wake up.
Wiedeking was in the Financial Times this past Tuesday.
In the article they talked about their profits, and in particular the GT3 profits - 50,000 Euros per model is their profit.
I have been VERY VERY vocal about this issue in the past (have muted myself since) have pissed off people in this forum b/c of them.
But to me, I think we have already seen the climax for Porsche in the 993 Turbo.
I think everything here on in is a step in the downhill position for Porsche.
I mean, even the CGT, it really doesnt turn my crank, like a $600,000 car should.
08-14-2003, 04:34 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't give it the full " rice" treatment and slap a huge decal along the lower door and mount a pie- plate sized tach on the A-pillar. It's embarrassing - the " tuners" first emulated Porsche , now the perverse /reverse is happening . Ferrari is guilty also - where do you think the preschool - toy yellow and red gauge faces in the Enzo and Stradale are from?
08-14-2003, 05:12 PM
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I'm very disappointed.
The power upgrade is nice and backs up what I was told at the factory back in May/June. I may even try to get the new chip for my GT2, if they haven't changed anything else at all, since it will still hold the warranty.
However 'carbon look' is not a phrase I expect to ever see with Porsche. Either make it real carbon or do not make it.
The carbon rear wing will look like like an cheap 'ricer' add-on on anything but black cars.
I also think GT3 wheels should stay on GT3s...........
Not a good move by Porsche at all........
Guy
The power upgrade is nice and backs up what I was told at the factory back in May/June. I may even try to get the new chip for my GT2, if they haven't changed anything else at all, since it will still hold the warranty.
However 'carbon look' is not a phrase I expect to ever see with Porsche. Either make it real carbon or do not make it.
The carbon rear wing will look like like an cheap 'ricer' add-on on anything but black cars.
I also think GT3 wheels should stay on GT3s...........
Not a good move by Porsche at all........
Guy
08-14-2003, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by RR
Anyways, Porsche should wake up.
Wiedeking was in the Financial Times this past Tuesday.
In the article they talked about their profits, and in particular the GT3 profits - 50,000 Euros per model is their profit.
Anyways, Porsche should wake up.
Wiedeking was in the Financial Times this past Tuesday.
In the article they talked about their profits, and in particular the GT3 profits - 50,000 Euros per model is their profit.
08-14-2003, 07:26 PM
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I think there is more at stake here. Namely, credibility. When they marketed the GT2 in '01 part of the marketing was limited availability. If they are going to go and add model years with tweaks -- whose to say I won't be able to get an 07 CGT with 700hp? It is brand suicide to do this kind of thing at the super-car edge of the price range.
08-15-2003, 12:37 AM
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"I mean, even the CGT, it really doesnt turn my crank, like a $600,000 car should."
Why should a $440k car turn your crank like a $600k should?
"I also think GT3 wheels should stay on GT3s...........
Not a good move by Porsche at all........ "
if you think putting the wheels from a $100k car on a $200k car is bad, how bout them putting the GT Silver from the $440k car on the $90k 911 40th anniversary car?
Why should a $440k car turn your crank like a $600k should?
"I also think GT3 wheels should stay on GT3s...........
Not a good move by Porsche at all........ "
if you think putting the wheels from a $100k car on a $200k car is bad, how bout them putting the GT Silver from the $440k car on the $90k 911 40th anniversary car?