PFC 01,06,or 08?
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PFC 01,06,or 08?
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Need to replace my PFC97 pads. What are the GT3 collective's current thoughts on PFC 01 vs 06 vs 08. My inclination is to either stick with 97's or go with 06 or 08's which may generate a bit more bite/stopping capability than the 97's but are still relatively rotor friendly. If any of you have experience with the various PFC types and their characteristics I'd appreciate any input.
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Need to replace my PFC97 pads. What are the GT3 collective's current thoughts on PFC 01 vs 06 vs 08. My inclination is to either stick with 97's or go with 06 or 08's which may generate a bit more bite/stopping capability than the 97's but are still relatively rotor friendly. If any of you have experience with the various PFC types and their characteristics I'd appreciate any input.
TIA.
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I have 06 front and rear. Will try 06 front 01 rear next time for fun.
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I've run the 97, 01, 06, and next month the 08.
For the 6GT3 I liked 2 setups best:
01F&R--> Absolutely the best braking but it comes at a cost (rotors ). This gives you braking as I refer to it...."the hand of god". You really need to be up on the wheel for this setup
06F 01R-->Max braking WITH max stability with perfect rear bias split
Since I won't try the 08 until next month I can't report just yet. Also, it will be on my 7GT3 which already has the rear bias adjustment made by the factory so no need for the split compound sertup. However, the braking characteristics should be very similar between the cars (weight, Cd, balance, etc). I can report back then.
For the 6GT3 I liked 2 setups best:
01F&R--> Absolutely the best braking but it comes at a cost (rotors ). This gives you braking as I refer to it...."the hand of god". You really need to be up on the wheel for this setup
06F 01R-->Max braking WITH max stability with perfect rear bias split
Since I won't try the 08 until next month I can't report just yet. Also, it will be on my 7GT3 which already has the rear bias adjustment made by the factory so no need for the split compound sertup. However, the braking characteristics should be very similar between the cars (weight, Cd, balance, etc). I can report back then.
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I've run the 97, 01, 06, and 08.
PF slotted rotors on the front & 350mm 997 GT3 rear.
Best combo I found for street & track is 08 front & 06 rear - no squeal, little dust & really good pedal feel. The rear pads will last longer than the discs. I have GT2 rear ducts & Cup front ducts.
PF slotted rotors on the front & 350mm 997 GT3 rear.
Best combo I found for street & track is 08 front & 06 rear - no squeal, little dust & really good pedal feel. The rear pads will last longer than the discs. I have GT2 rear ducts & Cup front ducts.
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Ha, well that about covers the complete matrix of possible combinations...
Yep, seems to be a pretty popular setup.
Very comprehensive as usual Dell -thanks.
Where are you guys sourcing your pads from these days?
Interesting.
I've been happy with the 97s but I'm thinking I may give the 08s a try on the Fr with the 06s or 01s on the rear. PFC claims the 08s give the longest wear and of course it's their latest compound.
Thanks again everyone.
Yep, seems to be a pretty popular setup.
I've run the 97, 01, 06, and next month the 08.
For the 6GT3 I liked 2 setups best:
01F&R--> Absolutely the best braking but it comes at a cost (rotors ). This gives you braking as I refer to it...."the hand of god". You really need to be up on the wheel for this setup
06F 01R-->Max braking WITH max stability with perfect rear bias split
Since I won't try the 08 until next month I can't report just yet. Also, it will be on my 7GT3 which already has the rear bias adjustment made by the factory so no need for the split compound sertup. However, the braking characteristics should be very similar between the cars (weight, Cd, balance, etc). I can report back then.
For the 6GT3 I liked 2 setups best:
01F&R--> Absolutely the best braking but it comes at a cost (rotors ). This gives you braking as I refer to it...."the hand of god". You really need to be up on the wheel for this setup
06F 01R-->Max braking WITH max stability with perfect rear bias split
Since I won't try the 08 until next month I can't report just yet. Also, it will be on my 7GT3 which already has the rear bias adjustment made by the factory so no need for the split compound sertup. However, the braking characteristics should be very similar between the cars (weight, Cd, balance, etc). I can report back then.
Where are you guys sourcing your pads from these days?
I've run the 97, 01, 06, and 08.
PF slotted rotors on the front & 350mm 997 GT3 rear.
Best combo I found for street & track is 08 front & 06 rear - no squeal, little dust & really good pedal feel. The rear pads will last longer than the discs. I have GT2 rear ducts & Cup front ducts.
PF slotted rotors on the front & 350mm 997 GT3 rear.
Best combo I found for street & track is 08 front & 06 rear - no squeal, little dust & really good pedal feel. The rear pads will last longer than the discs. I have GT2 rear ducts & Cup front ducts.
I've been happy with the 97s but I'm thinking I may give the 08s a try on the Fr with the 06s or 01s on the rear. PFC claims the 08s give the longest wear and of course it's their latest compound.
Thanks again everyone.
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Mike:
You'll love the 08 Compound. I've heard nothing but positives from the GT3 drivers I have spoken with in the paddock at various tracks. Plenty of torque to slow down a GT3, yet they are easy on the rotors. The 06 will give you a little more initial torque, and are also rotor friendly. We have plenty of both compounds in stock at OG Racing as well as 01s and 97s. If you have any questions, you can reach me via PM anytime, or give us call at 800.934.9112.
Here are Performance Friction's descriptions for each compound:
08 compound
08 compound is one of PFC newest and have gained immediate favor in Endurance Sportscar, and GT racing due to its performance in applications where smooth initial bite is a must. 08 have a slight friction rise with temperature, excellent release and modulation characteristics, and very low abraded disc wear. In addition to its considerable performance, 08 wears the longest of all PFC pads and easily matches wear of the other competitors with much higher bite.
06 Compound
06 compound pads are very similar to PFC 01 for both bite and torque, within 4% of those values. Excellent release and control with very low wear. Very low abraded disc wear with a “powdery type” transfer layer. 06 pads are an excellent alternative to other brands of endurance compounds but with much higher performance. Excellent for club racing type shapes as well in OE brake calipers where ABS is used.
01 compound
01 is one of the most popular race compounds in the PFC's arsenal. Slightly higher bite and torque for the first 2/3's of the stop than 83 compound. At the end of the stop, 01 compound has less torque scatter for improved modulation with excellent release and a flat torque curve. 01 compound is very easy on the discs with very low wear, on par with 83 compounds.
97 Compound
This compound has been a favorite of sportscar endurance racing although it's initial development was through CART Champ Cars. 97 compounds have won races in CART, ALMS, Grand Am, and ASA. It is also a preferred pad for touring car and rally. Higher bite than 90 compound with slightly higher torque. Great modulation, very flat torque curve with enhanced release characteristics. 97 compounds are very easy on the discs, with very low wear. This compound is becoming a favorite of driving schools because it shares similar characteristics as 90 compounds but even less wear. Highly recommended as a general-purpose pad for all venues. (When out, refer to 01)
Kind regards,
You'll love the 08 Compound. I've heard nothing but positives from the GT3 drivers I have spoken with in the paddock at various tracks. Plenty of torque to slow down a GT3, yet they are easy on the rotors. The 06 will give you a little more initial torque, and are also rotor friendly. We have plenty of both compounds in stock at OG Racing as well as 01s and 97s. If you have any questions, you can reach me via PM anytime, or give us call at 800.934.9112.
Here are Performance Friction's descriptions for each compound:
08 compound
08 compound is one of PFC newest and have gained immediate favor in Endurance Sportscar, and GT racing due to its performance in applications where smooth initial bite is a must. 08 have a slight friction rise with temperature, excellent release and modulation characteristics, and very low abraded disc wear. In addition to its considerable performance, 08 wears the longest of all PFC pads and easily matches wear of the other competitors with much higher bite.
06 Compound
06 compound pads are very similar to PFC 01 for both bite and torque, within 4% of those values. Excellent release and control with very low wear. Very low abraded disc wear with a “powdery type” transfer layer. 06 pads are an excellent alternative to other brands of endurance compounds but with much higher performance. Excellent for club racing type shapes as well in OE brake calipers where ABS is used.
01 compound
01 is one of the most popular race compounds in the PFC's arsenal. Slightly higher bite and torque for the first 2/3's of the stop than 83 compound. At the end of the stop, 01 compound has less torque scatter for improved modulation with excellent release and a flat torque curve. 01 compound is very easy on the discs with very low wear, on par with 83 compounds.
97 Compound
This compound has been a favorite of sportscar endurance racing although it's initial development was through CART Champ Cars. 97 compounds have won races in CART, ALMS, Grand Am, and ASA. It is also a preferred pad for touring car and rally. Higher bite than 90 compound with slightly higher torque. Great modulation, very flat torque curve with enhanced release characteristics. 97 compounds are very easy on the discs, with very low wear. This compound is becoming a favorite of driving schools because it shares similar characteristics as 90 compounds but even less wear. Highly recommended as a general-purpose pad for all venues. (When out, refer to 01)
Kind regards,
Last edited by Carrera51; 02-09-2012 at 06:25 PM.
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I've used 97, 01 and 06. As Dell said, the 01s are the most aggressive at braking and at rotor wear, but they are SERIOUS, and require a lighter touch. The 06s are a nice compromise, and for the past few sets, I have had F06/R01. But, since I have been using pretty inexpensive front rotors now, I'm going back to 01/01 after I use up the F06 with PFC rotors.
I have a set of slightly used 97s. If anyone is interested in a good deal, pm me.
I have a set of slightly used 97s. If anyone is interested in a good deal, pm me.
#13
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Pagid is crap.
If you want a pad that can be run with more confidence, virtually zero uneven pad deposit, doesn't require bedding, and has more predictable and controllable torque curves, then you want PFC.
And yes, the entire PFC line is made to work with the OEM brake system.
If you want a pad that can be run with more confidence, virtually zero uneven pad deposit, doesn't require bedding, and has more predictable and controllable torque curves, then you want PFC.
And yes, the entire PFC line is made to work with the OEM brake system.
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Thanks Dell, I had forgotten about the "no bedding" clause.
Might give these a try based on all the positive feedback in these pages.
Now, about the "Pagid is crap", a bit extreme, maybe. I mean, wasn't this the golden standard up until... uh, now?
Might give these a try based on all the positive feedback in these pages.
Now, about the "Pagid is crap", a bit extreme, maybe. I mean, wasn't this the golden standard up until... uh, now?