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Old 03-19-2011, 05:19 PM
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hello. i decided that i wanted my front sway bar at stiffest setting and the rear sway bar at one off the stiffest . i took my 996 gt3 to a very reputable certified porsche dealer . they adjusted the swaybars and on the invoice the tech wrote
"moved front sway bar links to rear most position ,moved rear sway bar links to 2nd most forward position"
does that sound right ? i mean did his actions accomplish my goal thanks
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Rule #1 trust your shop or find another

Rule #2 use the search function

and the answer away from the bar is softer so your shop is correct : )
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That sounds like you got what you asked for. Also sounds like a LOT of front bar...
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well first off you were right did the search and learned a lot thanks
as to the actual settings of the sway bars it sounds like most think this is too extreme . contrary to what i did when i asked the above question i spent hours over the winter season trying to learn about suspension and its settings . this included hours on rennlist and other sources . i initially was going to increase my wheel rate with stiffer and springs and shocks. an individual(well respected) i had the opportunity to talk with suggested that a step before this would be to buy "upgraded sway bars". it seemed to me that it would make no sense to buy stouter sways until i maxed out the stock sway bars . kinda figured then to go to stiffest in front and one off in back so as to stay balanced. can you tell i am new at this??
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Yea, you got it all wrong, I'm sorry to say. Put the front in the middle, you can leave the rear alone to start but move it to two off full stiff if the car is too loose.
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Originally Posted by rkirshner
... i wanted my front sway bar at stiffest setting ...the tech wrote "moved front sway bar links to rear most position"...
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and the answer away from the bar is softer so your shop is correct : )
OK so please be gentle, but I think you might be wrong

If away from the bar is softer (as I would think instinctively due to the leverage), and the tech moved the link to the "rear most position", doesn't that mean that it is now in the softest position?

Picture below is from my car as I bought it. You can see that link is in most forward position. Isn't THIS the stiffest setting?

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yes closer to the bar is.. Im gentle
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Originally Posted by FFaust
OK so please be gentle, but I think you might be wrong

If away from the bar is softer (as I would think instinctively due to the leverage), and the tech moved the link to the "rear most position", doesn't that mean that it is now in the softest position?
Completely agree. Furthermore, full stiff up front gives you better control of the rear end of the car. You may need to practice rotating the car under braking entering a tight corner, but there are substantial benefits. I run my front bar full stiff almost everywhere but Laguna.....

The OEM shocks and springs are great for most applications....
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i learn every time i come here . did the tech do the right thing ? did he accomplish full stiff front and one off on rear . if i knew the answer i woulnt be asking and i did the sugested full search
thnaks
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Originally Posted by FFaust
OK so please be gentle, but I think you might be wrong

If away from the bar is softer (as I would think instinctively due to the leverage), and the tech moved the link to the "rear most position", doesn't that mean that it is now in the softest position?

Picture below is from my car as I bought it. You can see that link is in most forward position. Isn't THIS the stiffest setting?

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Completely agree. Furthermore, full stiff up front gives you better control of the rear end of the car. You may need to practice rotating the car under braking entering a tight corner, but there are substantial benefits. I run my front bar full stiff almost everywhere but Laguna.....

The OEM shocks and springs are great for most applications....


Archimedes (talking about the principle of the lever), said: "Give me the place to stand, and I shall move the earth" : )

So gents for one more time, when you pick the hole away from the bar then you go soft, close to the bar is hard.

And below is the picture version that will end this "debate" for ever.

Now if you want to talk about the perfect settings that is another matter..

IMO the sway bars of the 6GT3 have a nice size and are well balanced F&R and also provide enough adjustability to cover most personal driving styles and some suspension upgrades..
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FWIW, I run the front bar either at full stiff or 1 from full. I start the rear bar in the middle and adjust depending on the car's behavior. If you trail brake a lot, you might try moving the rear bar a little softer as you go. Softer rear should also allow you to get to the power earlier as well.

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Originally Posted by rkirshner
i learn every time i come here . did the tech do the right thing ? did he accomplish full stiff front and one off on rear . if i knew the answer i woulnt be asking and i did the sugested full search
thnaks
The only way for you to know this is to poke your head under the car to see what hole the drop link is in.

Close to bar (toward the front for the front bar, toward the rear for the rear bar) = stiff (as in my picture above)

Further from the bar = soft


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