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Old 12-09-2010, 01:27 AM
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Yeap it has its own
Old 12-09-2010, 01:31 AM
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all these part numbers are driving me crazy!

so do i also need this plate & screw also!

mike

here are the part no's i have so far

#10 – 996.424.040.75 $486
#6 – 996.424.145.9A $17.40
#7 – 900.169.015.02 $15.22
999 919 204 09 oval screw
Old 12-09-2010, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudley
I bought my Cup shifter and cables from TRG.

I paid $542.83 for the Cup Shifter.
The Cup Cables were $486.37
Shipping was $14.64
Installation was $466.33

So for $1510.17 you can upgrade to the Cup.
that's about my price as well.
but really, all the GT cars shift very very well.
it's the operator not the shifter. and the plastic thing really doesnt brake if u shifted lightly. none of my GT cars ever had shifter issues. the stripper has cup shifters b/c the PO put in BM shifter which i hate. personally i prefer longer throw, you are less likely to fk up and miss a shift. since i needed to take out BM i put in cup. now i have it, it feels different not better.
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Originally Posted by porka
all these part numbers are driving me crazy!

so do i also need this plate & screw also!

mike

here are the part no's i have so far

#10 – 996.424.040.75 $486
#6 – 996.424.145.9A $17.40
#7 – 900.169.015.02 $15.22
999 919 204 09 oval screw
dont bother with parts. find a REAL shop and just have them do it.
Old 12-09-2010, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
^trust me don't ^go back to stock 996 or 997 cables/box . With my shorter r/p and having to use 5th gear- downshifting can be a real challenge sometimes it goes into 6 and one time it went into 2nd- bye bye pressure plate/clutch like me : (. Mike
i saw you shift.
relax dude.
relax
Old 12-09-2010, 02:31 AM
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^ I like to ^go in and out as fast I can despite a little misshift- keep the intensity going on : ). Banging gears is fun : ) though expensive : ). Mike
Old 12-09-2010, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
^ I like to ^go in and out as fast I can despite a little misshift- keep the intensity going on : ). Banging gears is fun : ) though expensive : ). Mike
Try slower, smoother movements. It can work well.
Old 12-09-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cfjan
Thanks for clarifying.. (California Motorsports vs. Cantrell)

How does it compare to the stock 997 GT3 shifter? I was told by Cantrell that the CMS shifter is 15% shorter throw compared to the Cup unit, so it should be identical to the 997 GT3 OEM shifter. Can you confirm that?
The CMS unit can be supplied with or without the B&M short shift parts. Mine had it. The OE 997.2 throw is already short and I would say comparable to the B&M unit. The issue I had was neutral with the CMS/B&M unit was approx 30 degrees to the passenger side vs OE. It was very unnatural to shift. So CMS is looking at how to redesign to fix this. I think the 997.2 shifter throw is offset to the driver side, you can see this in the pics. I have no reference where the 996 neutral sits.

With that clarified and simply noting the feel of the throw, it was bolt-action rifle precise with the CMS unit. The is a bit more play with OE shifter but replacing the OE cable with Cup made a HUGE difference.

So food for thought.

John- thanks for posting the cover and screw to secure the cable housings but drilling two holes on each side and running two tie wraps seems to me to be much more secure? That cover looks flimsy in the pics. Perhaps not so in reallife? My tie secured ends are locked rock solid
Old 12-09-2010, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for all the help with the part numbers and explanations. This will make my job much easier and have a great upgrade that should work.
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Originally Posted by savyboy
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John- thanks for posting the cover and screw to secure the cable housings but drilling two holes on each side and running two tie wraps seems to me to be much more secure? That cover looks flimsy in the pics. Perhaps not so in reallife? My tie secured ends are locked rock solid
Actually yes it doesn't look in the photo but it is a solid piece of steel and slots perfectly on top of the cable housing ends. Impossible to move them even a mm with it on.
Old 12-09-2010, 02:44 PM
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Thanks John, you clarified quite a bit for me.
Old 12-09-2010, 03:04 PM
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Thanks again for the feedback.. the neutral at 30 degrees to the passenger side.. I guess I don't understand why it is that way.. so it basically shift the shift **** to the right by a couple of inches then, right?

Very strange...


Originally Posted by savyboy
The CMS unit can be supplied with or without the B&M short shift parts. Mine had it. The OE 997.2 throw is already short and I would say comparable to the B&M unit. The issue I had was neutral with the CMS/B&M unit was approx 30 degrees to the passenger side vs OE. It was very unnatural to shift. So CMS is looking at how to redesign to fix this. I think the 997.2 shifter throw is offset to the driver side, you can see this in the pics. I have no reference where the 996 neutral sits.

With that clarified and simply noting the feel of the throw, it was bolt-action rifle precise with the CMS unit. The is a bit more play with OE shifter but replacing the OE cable with Cup made a HUGE difference.

So food for thought.

John- thanks for posting the cover and screw to secure the cable housings but drilling two holes on each side and running two tie wraps seems to me to be much more secure? That cover looks flimsy in the pics. Perhaps not so in reallife? My tie secured ends are locked rock solid
Old 12-09-2010, 03:23 PM
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While we are on the subject - does anyone have a spare centering jig?
I can not find mine.
Old 12-09-2010, 04:12 PM
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U can duct tape it to keep it in position if u don't find a jig. Mike
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Thanks Mike. I found the "adjustment bridge" to my Cup Shifter but it does not fit my SSK shifter.
(I have have way too many spare parts laying around here.)
The part number on the Cup tool is 996 424 395 03
Do all the non-Cup assemblys share the same bridge?
Does anyone have the part number for the 997 SSK bridge?

Is it the green one, 997 424 383 01?


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