Lotus Club, Thunderhill, 7/13/2010
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After my buddy wrecked at sears point (no surprise that a Porsche wrecks at that archaic unsafe hellhole) he gave me the rack and basket, maybe some day I will try it on my car too
Here is a picture of his car, all the wheels and the damage from sp the car destroyer, don't have one of the wheels on top
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What, exactly, is "archaic" and "unsafe" about Sears? Even prior to the 1988ish improvements, let alone the later ones 10 or so years ago, there isn't too much to fault with respect to any other tracks that have pro racing. And we do know how laughable some of the "club" tracks end up being in one or two spots.
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sears demands respect, courage and faith.
it's not "unsafe". it just has many walls.
dont hit the walls and you will be fine.
it's not "unsafe". it just has many walls.
dont hit the walls and you will be fine.
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What, exactly, is "archaic" and "unsafe" about Sears? Even prior to the 1988ish improvements, let alone the later ones 10 or so years ago, there isn't too much to fault with respect to any other tracks that have pro racing. And we do know how laughable some of the "club" tracks end up being in one or two spots.
Go watch Le Mans with McQueen, see what a death trap it was. Now watch Le Mans this year- completely different safety level. Now watch racing at the point from the early 70s and today. Very little has changed. Why is there a wall right at 11? Would it be that hard to create a runoff area there? Why is there a a double wall with no runoff at the exit from the esses? In fact, why is there a big concrete wall at nearly every point on the track? Because it's dangerous and archaic.
FIA came to look at the track and said the runoff for 10 would have to extend beyond the road and into the land beyond it. Instead there's a wall right there. If you think it's safe drive there, I hope you don't get hurt
Every time I have been at sears someone has wrecked. Not the case at laguna or t hill. After doing this for 17 years I have opinions on what is acceptable risk, and what is just dangerous. Sears point is just plain dangerous.
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Hey, no one if forcing anyone to drive anywhere. I think 1978 was the first time I made it through the gates at Sears. Sure, seen plenty of carnage. Also did at Riverside, and that place was about as wide open as you could get. Rather have a wall you can see, or a rut you may hit and roll from? I'll say the first time I was belted into an Atlantic at PIR, the T1 wall on the oval was more intimidating than even Sears 8a prior to moving the hill back.
If every track were to the standards of Le Mans, etc. then I suppose the NIMBYs should have let Cougar Mountain progress, and the track would be housing and vineyards? (Where does that leave Nurburgring Nordschleife?)
In my final analysis, Mooty has the right outlook on the place.
If every track were to the standards of Le Mans, etc. then I suppose the NIMBYs should have let Cougar Mountain progress, and the track would be housing and vineyards? (Where does that leave Nurburgring Nordschleife?)
In my final analysis, Mooty has the right outlook on the place.