same

 

I run the nt01s in 245/315 too. The tires show minimal wear after 3 track days and driving to/from the track. I'm getting lazy - I think I might just run my track wheels all the time...

 

Surely this is a zero sum game though, if tyres last a lot longer then they are either harder and less sticky or you are driving slower on them?

 

Not the case with the Nitto. The compound is such that is doesn't have the stick of a MPSC but lasts more than twice as long and is consistent from HC #1 to the end. It is actually faster at the end before cording as it becomes a slick.

 

Some times to be fast on track does not mean one needs the stickiest tires and the most expensive car.

 

right on the money...

the cups might have better stick but marginally better than nitto (or toyo's, i've tried RA1's and R888s) and considering the higher cost and shorter lifespan, forget it! if i want more stick, i'll go hoosiers

 

Hoosiers certainly are yummy, but I still need to learn how to drive. Seems a waste to run R6 for a couple days with great stick in the corners when my line is off, I'm not looking ahead consistently enough, not cornering to the limit of the tires....and when no prize money is on the line.

After my last set of Hoosiers, I've managed to put down the crack pipe and am running Nittos again. I'll come back to Hoosiers after I learn how to drive.

 

Cups have much more stick than Nittos and fractionally more than the Pirelli Corsas on my car at the moment. Too bad the Pirellis have been discontinued. I like 'em.

I don't like the Nittos at Tremblant at all.

 

Allan hit the nail on the head. What is your goal when on track? Do you want to have more grip or do you want to learn? Nittos are the perfect balance of stick and forgiveness. As you move up that grip ladder, your margin for error decreases exponentially. If you are running track pads, then that rules out street tires as they will outbrake them. Nittos/RA1/R888 allow you to have enough grip to run track pads but not too much that you fail to learn the limits of the cars.

Until you can get to that place where you are correcting the car BEFORE it gets unstable (instead of reactive) you have zero business running more grip.

 

I'd agree with what Dell says.

 

But how are you supposed to win your DE if you don't have the stickiest tires?

-td

 

raw talent my brutha!

 

Nitrous.

 

Seriously though, one of the local guys in his stock '04 GT3 with MPSCs really enjoyed passing Cup Cars on slicks at the Glen. Hardware doesn't make up for talent.

 

Bingo! See post #27 for my agreement with that.