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Old 07-07-2009 | 06:42 PM
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I would like to hear from any fellow Rennlisters about their experience moving from a 997S to the GT3/RS. After three full DE events I continue to be slower in my RS when compared to my 997S convertible. To be exact I am about 3 seconds slower, what gives? I understand that I have to get to know the car, but after 3 events I should at least be matching my previous times, don't you think?
Old 07-07-2009 | 08:10 PM
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Very hard to just say so suggestions:
- Get a instructor. Looks like a whole bunch of them hang at Rennlist. Sure someone will chip in soon.
- Data Acquisition system. Extremely cheap and available now.
Old 07-07-2009 | 09:17 PM
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i think you are hanging on too much since the car is more costly than the 997. there's no reason why RS should be 3 seconds slower, even if it's poorly aligned.
Old 07-07-2009 | 09:39 PM
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i think you are hanging on too much since the car is more costly than the 997. there's no reason why RS should be 3 seconds slower, even if it's poorly aligned.
Agreed!!!
Old 07-07-2009 | 09:51 PM
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Maybe it's broken. I'll give you 20K for it. In all seriousness, maybe you focus too much on lap times. Did you take car of understeer like all RS have??
Old 07-07-2009 | 10:05 PM
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Confidence in the car sounds to be a possible issue.

Remember that the feel is pronounced over the S and that the noises are inclined to make the car sound as though its going faster than it is!

Make sure the alignment is as it should be for a fast road/track setup.

Check the tyre pressures after a few laps and get them set as other RS drivers do. Incorrect tyre pressures will cause the rear to be very nervous and so will you be as a result.

Run on Michelin Cup tyres (watch out in the wet though).

Go out with another RS owner who is quicker and see how he does it.

As said above - get an instructor to identify what you are doing.
Old 07-07-2009 | 11:40 PM
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I came from a 997S to a 996GT3 and I was way slower at first.

My ideology: RESPECT THE CAR
It does what it is told to do ... NOW. Good or bad.

I drove my first few events on street tires. Got comfortable then back to Rs. Slowly but surely learned how the car behaved, added seat time, and slowly picked up the pace.

2 years later and I am very comfortable in the car.

Take your time. Speed will come.

RESPECT THE CAR.
Old 07-08-2009 | 04:39 AM
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id say you got the recipe right. it is just the matter of how you add the "ingredients" ........

soon you will have it just right
Old 07-09-2009 | 12:50 AM
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Try not squeezing out the last bit of juice from the motor- accelerate a bit less, brake a lot less and carry speed.

For me the raw power of the car was hard to deal with at first and this was the only way to separate my surprise at the acceleration and learn the limits of the car... which I am still doing 1 year and 12 track days later
Old 07-09-2009 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
I came from a 997S to a 996GT3 and I was way slower at first.

My ideology: RESPECT THE CAR
It does what it is told to do ... NOW. Good or bad.

I drove my first few events on street tires. Got comfortable then back to Rs. Slowly but surely learned how the car behaved, added seat time, and slowly picked up the pace.

2 years later and I am very comfortable in the car.

Take your time. Speed will come.

RESPECT THE CAR.
Great post.^^

I was very frustated in that I was faster in my M3 than the GT3 at first. It's simply a matter of adapting to the car. Once YOU start to drive the car instead of the car driving you, you will find your confidence and be much quicker.
Old 07-09-2009 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
I came from a 997S to a 996GT3 and I was way slower at first.

My ideology: RESPECT THE CAR
It does what it is told to do ... NOW. Good or bad.

I drove my first few events on street tires. Got comfortable then back to Rs. Slowly but surely learned how the car behaved, added seat time, and slowly picked up the pace.

2 years later and I am very comfortable in the car.

Take your time. Speed will come.

RESPECT THE CAR.
what ^ he said
Old 07-09-2009 | 10:01 AM
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get a good instructor.
Old 07-09-2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rassel
Very hard to just say so suggestions:
- Get a instructor. Looks like a whole bunch of them hang at Rennlist. Sure someone will chip in soon.
- Data Acquisition system [and/or video]. Extremely cheap and available now.
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Old 07-09-2009 | 03:46 PM
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Data with a coach/instructor is a must. Data helps aid in physically show you what they are teaching! Also they will have years of experience to draw from that will help speed up your learning process. A guy I talked with this weekend picked up 4 seconds just from talking to and taking one ride with a multiple LeMans winner.

If you need a Traqmate system, let me know. I can offer a discount to Rennlisters
Old 07-09-2009 | 09:40 PM
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a little off the topic
data acquisitions seem to be the HOT thing to get now days.
quite frankly, you need someone to intrepret the data or you have to spend LONG time and really understand what the data is telling you.

i have data system. i have others interpret for me as i dont have the time to deal with what the data is telling me. so dont think having data will automatically improve your time. in fact, it may cause you doubts and with wrong interpretation, you will be slower.


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