D-Uber Cars

Gordon, NJ-GT,
Ted drove it (although much faster than I), both of us had the same issue on exit to 2 and 8. Based on all feedback, what is validated:
- Aggressive street alignment (Less than neg 2 degree camber) is most likely the largest issue.
- Both front and rear bar settings. Currently reset to: Front: One from full soft. Rear: One from full hard.
- Moton CS settings: At Pacific used: Front: Compression: 2, Rebound: 3. Rear 2, 3.
Thanks all, learning a lot!

Camber

What are your front and rear toe settings? This will have a huge impact on what the proper sway bar settings are.

I have Moton CS's set on long courses at the same settings you have (of course, I don't know what pressure you have the canisters set at). With slight front toe out (7' or .15 degrees ea.), my front bar is full hard and rear is middle. When I was running with slight front toe in, my front bar was two notches softer (mid-setting). In other words, a change from .15 degrees toe in front to .15 degrees tow out front required a significant sway bar change to keep the car neutral.

Jim

LVDell

Why in the world would you run toe IN up front??? That makes ZERO sense and will do nothing for turn in and will actually increase understeer in the corners and scrub speed in the straights.

mooty

conservative: zero toe front
usually for GT3: toe OUT front.

LVDell

John, I have run both neutral as well as toe out and prefer neutral. The only time toe out helped was INITIAL turn-in but the trade-off for the tracking at high speed as well as slight speed scrub, I found neutral the best.

datax

Instead of getting a new suspension kit, I went thru a several alignment specs (spent $2000 last year trying find the right settings ) and here's my 2 cents. I noticed having a slight toe-out at the front also makes the car more stable under braking (considering your diff is also locking up properly under deceleration) in addition to better turn in. I get more confidence when braking into a turn or around late apex ones. Car seems to a bit nervous with zero or neutral settings in similar situations.

996FLT6

toe in front good for street but not preferred at the track. I have zero toe front. Toe out I drive to/fro to track- it wanders to much. Mike

LVDell

pls explain

171mph

i have motons and nittos. my settings are full soft front sway, full stiff back. on moton i use 1 compression, 6 rebound front and 6/6 at back. i have 600/800 springs. seems to work ok for me. i also have 3deg all around which is too much camber at rear for nittos but just fine or maybe a bit conservative at front.

i get a little oversteer which is correctable (sometimes...). here is how my car handles at infineon - atrack will all sorts of turns. u can see the corrections needed as rear comes out at turn 6 (carousel) and turn 7 (hairpin). but seems just fine on the long left hand sweep (t9) and right hand sweeper (t10).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZFi1Zx64c

LVDell

Holy open track batman!

171mph

It was awesome. Porsches at the Point this past weekend with NASA and PRC. Believe it or not there were actually about 35 cars in my run group.

mjb

Nice. Good clean lap considering the number of cars in that HPDE4 run group. 1:49ish!...smok'n fast as always Dave

171mph

Thanks Mike. I'm impressed with these nittos great feel

Leigh2

I'll be there this weekend for the BMW DE...first time at that track. Always fun to learn a new track; thanks for the video...it will help.

996FLT6

Dell- toe in for front gives more on center straightline stability(does not wander like toe out does). Streetwise it's safer since it understeers too. Easier to correct understeer then oversteer. All cars are set up that way. 171 mph- wasn't it fun dicing/slicing with Nasa? 1:49 ugh - I won't even be close to u. See u nov 7/8. Regards mike