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Old 02-27-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DanH
Bells should last a while with the alcons I think...
2yrs, >25k miles, c.15TDs and still counting...
Old 02-27-2008, 11:22 PM
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Thats good to hear as far as the alcons go because I have a complete set on the way. As much as they cost they better last a while.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Not sure how that translates to the USD but here in the states we pay for PFC's:

Fronts (97's and 01's)
$400 and $250 for the rears.


...and on average for Pagid (19/29/14):
$375 front and $250 rear
From your side of the pond.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...215957224&rd=1

$190 front $65 rear Now that was a bargain!
Old 03-05-2008, 08:50 PM
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Holy cow! Makes you wonder if (a) they are genuine; or (b) they fell off a truck
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If fake someone went to an awful lot of trouble not only with the pads but the packaging labels etc etc all identical to that shipped by PFC UK!
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The PFC direct drive rotors are now on the car with PFC-01 pads at all corners.

The rotor construction is first rate and everything fit perfectly.

The rear PFC-01 pads have beveled edges and the front PFC-01 pads have a smaller contact area at the rotor surface in comparison to a Pagid RS-29.

*Since the Pagid pad is taller, it will not work properly with the PFC DD rotor. The inner edge of the Pagid will be too close to the PFC hat hardware.*

Pic #1 shows the PFC-01 (top) and the Pagid RS-29 (bottom).

Pic #2 shows the PFC-01 lying on top of the Pagid RS-29 showing the inner edge difference between the two pads.

Pic #3: Note how the inner edge of the PFC-01 sits right next to the hat.

Pic #4: Let's party.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:49 PM
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Looking good RJ -thanks for posting. I am excited about moving to PFCs over time...

-Blake
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Originally Posted by 94Speedster
Looking good RJ -thanks for posting. I am excited about moving to PFCs over time...

-Blake
Blake,

I'm looking forward to this setup.

Plus, I think I just reduced my relative risk of chronic pulmonary disease by 50% since I don't have to clean out the vent holes up front anymore!

Anyone else hold their breath when cleaning out the rotor vents?
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Interesting info.... I am running the 3 piece cup rotor's, how do they compare to these? I was running the 3 piece cup on rear and regular gt3 cup on front, front start spider cracking but rear looks brand new, thoughts on comparing the 3 piece cups to these?
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Interesting info.... I am running the 3 piece cup rotor's, how do they compare to these? I was running the 3 piece cup on rear and regular gt3 cup on front, front start spider cracking but rear looks brand new, thoughts on comparing the 3 piece cups to these?
Can anyone give me any insight on what I am trying to find out?

Right now I am running the 3 piece cup rotors on rear, and cup fronts, drilled with RS29 pads. Fantastic setup but my fronts after last season and VIR just a few weeks ago, probably don't have much time left.

PFC I see if real good from what everyone says. How does it compare with their OWN pad and rotor combo to a pagid yellow and cup rotor? Should I just get the 3 piece cup front's and call it a day?

Opinions are always welcome and appreciated!

Martin
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Can anyone give me any insight on what I am trying to find out?

Right now I am running the 3 piece cup rotors on rear, and cup fronts, drilled with RS29 pads. Fantastic setup but my fronts after last season and VIR just a few weeks ago, probably don't have much time left.

PFC I see if real good from what everyone says. How does it compare with their OWN pad and rotor combo to a pagid yellow and cup rotor? Should I just get the 3 piece cup front's and call it a day?

Opinions are always welcome and appreciated!

Martin
Martin,

I have run through multiple sets of cup rotors (one piece) up front and OEM rotors in the rear with RS29s at all 4 corners.

I recently ran the PFC DD rotors (front) and OEM rotors (rear) hard at VIR with PFC-01 pads all the way around.

Here are my quick impressions:

1. RS29s feel gritty... the PFC-01s feel really smooth during application.
2. Overall stopping force seemed about equal... with maybe a slight edge to the RS29 setup.
3. PFC-01s required very little break in. With the Pagids, break in was quite a procedure.
4. Modulation under braking was better and smoother with the PFC-01s.
5. Both pads exhibit good release IMHO.
6. Zero fade with either setup.

I got sick and tired of the CRACKING in the cup rotors... I didn't switch due to performance issues. The cracking and constant cleaning of the vent holes is what drove me away from the cup setup.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
Old 04-06-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RJFabCab
Martin,

I have run through multiple sets of cup rotors (one piece) up front and OEM rotors in the rear with RS29s at all 4 corners.

I recently ran the PFC DD rotors (front) and OEM rotors (rear) hard at VIR with PFC-01 pads all the way around.

Here are my quick impressions:

1. RS29s feel gritty... the PFC-01s feel really smooth during application.
2. Overall stopping force seemed about equal... with maybe a slight edge to the RS29 setup.
3. PFC-01s required very little break in. With the Pagids, break in was quite a procedure.
4. Modulation under braking was better and smoother with the PFC-01s.
5. Both pads exhibit good release IMHO.
6. Zero fade with either setup.

I got sick and tired of the CRACKING in the cup rotors... I didn't switch due to performance issues. The cracking and constant cleaning of the vent holes is what drove me away from the cup setup.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
Awesome info and what I was looking for. NOW only if I could find out people who have used the 3 piece cup rotors LOL... Visually they are like 3 times the size of the normal GT3 cup rotors, I don't see how they would ever crack!

I saw so many people at the track with the PFC rotors, not sure what pads they were using, and I read a few times you cant use the Pagid's with PFC correct?

BTW how did you effictively clean out the grit from the drilled holes in the rotor?

Thanks, Martin.
Old 04-06-2008, 01:15 AM
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Martin, I never heard of 3 piece cup rotors. Are you sure that's what you have? The answer to PFC rotors + Pagids is a few posts above.
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Originally Posted by Rob in VA
Martin, I never heard of 3 piece cup rotors. Are you sure that's what you have? The answer to PFC rotors + Pagids is a few posts above.
Rob From what I am told, I have 3 piece cup rotors.. They make several variants I know of, maybe they are 2 piece, all I know is off the car compared to a front cup rotor they are massive in comparison in every way! Here's a pic, not too great but you can save it and zoom in??

Old 04-06-2008, 02:37 AM
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Another question about the PFC + 01 pads:

- How are they on the street or even more demanding - autox?

I drive my GT3 on the street, autox and track and am thinking about these when my Cup rotors die.

Thanks,


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