Cup Steering wheel in a GT3 or GT2
03-25-2007, 07:18 PM
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Well I fitted the wheel this weekend. Easy to do but for the horn and airbag light.
Wheel was supplied by gert with a contactor for the horn which simply plugs into a hole in the stalk assembly. Only trouble is there is no socket inside the assembly. Had to scour my bits box and found a suitable socket in an old headlight unit which I soldered onto the original horn plug cable and fitted inside the stalk assembly.
After a great deal of fiddling I managed to get the copper contact to match the copper ring on the base of the wheel (the design doesn't help as it is slightly recessed and any minor misalignment and you fail to make contact).
The airbag light was a different matter. I assumed that I could just put a resistance across the original wires to the airbag and advice gave a 100ohm resistor should be ok, but it doesn't work.
Durametric identified the fault and switched the light off for about half a second and despite trying several times I have now resorted to the famous black tape method. Anyone know what I should have done???
Wheel was supplied by gert with a contactor for the horn which simply plugs into a hole in the stalk assembly. Only trouble is there is no socket inside the assembly. Had to scour my bits box and found a suitable socket in an old headlight unit which I soldered onto the original horn plug cable and fitted inside the stalk assembly.
After a great deal of fiddling I managed to get the copper contact to match the copper ring on the base of the wheel (the design doesn't help as it is slightly recessed and any minor misalignment and you fail to make contact).
The airbag light was a different matter. I assumed that I could just put a resistance across the original wires to the airbag and advice gave a 100ohm resistor should be ok, but it doesn't work.
Durametric identified the fault and switched the light off for about half a second and despite trying several times I have now resorted to the famous black tape method. Anyone know what I should have done???
03-27-2007, 05:20 PM
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UPDATE! Just got back from a trackday at Silverstone and the wheel is great!
1. lots of admiring comments.
2. You feel like a racecar driver (not in a sexual sense I hasten to add)
3. You feel more connected - far less input and although it sounds stoopid a much better feel for what the front end is doing (?)
4. More admiring comments
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1. lots of admiring comments.
2. You feel like a racecar driver (not in a sexual sense I hasten to add)
3. You feel more connected - far less input and although it sounds stoopid a much better feel for what the front end is doing (?)
4. More admiring comments
)
03-28-2007, 11:30 AM
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Well there are a lot of cars out on the public highway without airbag fitment so it is not illegal to drive a car without an airbag but whether it is illegal to remove one and then use it on the road I am not so sure........
Gulp!
Gulp!
03-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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Update from the UK Dept for Transport website discussing airbag safety....
"Although there is no specific legal requirement for cars on the road to have an airbag, disconnection would be very much a last resort, since the airbag forms part of an overall safety package specifically designed for the particular vehicle. Therefore manufacturers do not generally recommend disconnecting airbags, although it may be appropriate in some exceptional circumstances.
In these cases it would be reasonable for a manufacturer to impose certain conditions before disconnecting an airbag, such as requiring replacement of the steering wheel and possibly the seat belt since these components may have been specifically designed and approved for use with an airbag. They may also require you to accept the responsibility for having the airbag disconnected and for any effect the disconnection may have on any other driver of the car. Of course, the airbag should be reconnected before the car is eventually sold. Finally, your insurance company should be consulted and kept informed."
Sounds fair to me....
"Although there is no specific legal requirement for cars on the road to have an airbag, disconnection would be very much a last resort, since the airbag forms part of an overall safety package specifically designed for the particular vehicle. Therefore manufacturers do not generally recommend disconnecting airbags, although it may be appropriate in some exceptional circumstances.
In these cases it would be reasonable for a manufacturer to impose certain conditions before disconnecting an airbag, such as requiring replacement of the steering wheel and possibly the seat belt since these components may have been specifically designed and approved for use with an airbag. They may also require you to accept the responsibility for having the airbag disconnected and for any effect the disconnection may have on any other driver of the car. Of course, the airbag should be reconnected before the car is eventually sold. Finally, your insurance company should be consulted and kept informed."
Sounds fair to me....
03-28-2007, 02:53 PM
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Wow what an old thread 
In the US street driving I would be less concerned about police/etc pulling you over, at most it is an equipment violation.
Safety is an issue on the street, without an airbag you should drive with 6 point harnenesses instead of the 3 point.
The most pressing issue would be how your insurance company handles it, (but they don't have to know )
In the US street driving I would be less concerned about police/etc pulling you over, at most it is an equipment violation.
Safety is an issue on the street, without an airbag you should drive with 6 point harnenesses instead of the 3 point.
The most pressing issue would be how your insurance company handles it, (but they don't have to know
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03-28-2007, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Moogle
The most pressing issue would be how your insurance company handles it, (but they don't have to know )
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03-28-2007, 06:31 PM
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Well I told my insurance company about the wheel and the 4:1 motorsport crownwheel/pinion today and they were not concerned. More concerned about any power modifications but at least I have it on record in the event of the worst happening!
I am aware of all the comment about street usage with 3 point belts versus 6 points and the dangers of head contact with having a full cage even with padding.
The concerns seem to be advising anyone (such as service techs) driving the car that they are at risk with the cage and the fact that the airbag is on a shelf in my garage! The silly thing is that for the annual Ministry of Transport test, the regulations state you must have servicable 3 point belts fitted - they don't check out the 6 point harnesses!!
I am aware of all the comment about street usage with 3 point belts versus 6 points and the dangers of head contact with having a full cage even with padding.
The concerns seem to be advising anyone (such as service techs) driving the car that they are at risk with the cage and the fact that the airbag is on a shelf in my garage! The silly thing is that for the annual Ministry of Transport test, the regulations state you must have servicable 3 point belts fitted - they don't check out the 6 point harnesses!!
03-07-2011, 10:25 AM
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@ g3tcs: What Cup wheel and hub did you have installed ?
The 996 at listed in this thread by Moogle from Carnewall,
Or the 997 Cup as in the image from Supercup ?
The 996 at listed in this thread by Moogle from Carnewall,
Or the 997 Cup as in the image from Supercup ?
03-07-2011, 05:17 PM
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Instead of digging up a 4 year old thread, you really should PM the member you have a question for as your odds of getting a response are much better.
Just sayin'..........
FYI....I used a lifeline quick release and momo hub with the cup wheel in mine. Here is a few pics.
Just sayin'..........
FYI....I used a lifeline quick release and momo hub with the cup wheel in mine. Here is a few pics.