Sunroof on a track day car = Danger
07-19-2006, 01:23 AM
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The new Targa must be a real death trap..."fixed aluminum roof" and "laminated twin layered glass panel ".
On a more serious note, here's what I found the most interesting: "A double-clutch manual-automatic gearbox will be a likely addition to the options list in the not-too-distant-future."
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60717007/1024
On a more serious note, here's what I found the most interesting: "A double-clutch manual-automatic gearbox will be a likely addition to the options list in the not-too-distant-future."
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60717007/1024
07-19-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Does "mostly" require an explanation?
I don't want a sunroof. I hate the idea that the GT3 will have a sunroof. That said, I don't think it will affect me in any measurable way.
07-20-2006, 05:53 PM
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Nothing complicated. My guess is that 99% of the drivers of GT3s, regardless of whether they start modding their cars or not, are not good enough drivers to wring every ounce of performance out of the stock offering. If you are, and every ounce of additional weight reduction will improve your times, then, you have a serious beef.
I don't want a sunroof. I hate the idea that the GT3 will have a sunroof. That said, I don't think it will affect me in any measurable way.
I don't want a sunroof. I hate the idea that the GT3 will have a sunroof. That said, I don't think it will affect me in any measurable way.
a little bit overly pessimistic, don't you think?
but, i do agree the sunroof is not that big of an issue.
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07-20-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TD in DC
I don't want a sunroof. I hate the idea that the GT3 will have a sunroof. That said, I don't think it will affect me in any measurable way.
Originally Posted by TD in DC
Nothing complicated. My guess is that 99% of the drivers of GT3s, regardless of whether they start modding their cars or not, are not good enough drivers to wring every ounce of performance out of the stock offering. If you are, and every ounce of additional weight reduction will improve your times, then, you have a serious beef.
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07-20-2006, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalSolid
Well, it seems Porsche had the US market pegged right all along by not bringing in the real hardcore cars from models past. Even amongst the so called enthusiasts only a handful object to the sunroof. I think that's really sad - but what would one expect where the favorite motor sport is NASCAR?
Originally Posted by TD in DC
I don't want a sunroof. I hate the idea that the GT3 will have a sunroof.
live less than an hour from talledega and never been to a race.
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07-20-2006, 07:00 PM
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Nope, still reading you as a d**k.
07-20-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalSolid
Nope, still reading you as a d**k.
Originally Posted by icon
thoughtful reply as usual
07-20-2006, 10:35 PM
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This driving ability argument is way off.
Porsche AG is marketing racing heritage and certain performance features in the GT3 model. The car is not improving in areas where it should and with some features it is going backwards.
For those who want these non performance items order one of the other nice Porsche vehicles.
Porsche AG is marketing racing heritage and certain performance features in the GT3 model. The car is not improving in areas where it should and with some features it is going backwards.
For those who want these non performance items order one of the other nice Porsche vehicles.
07-20-2006, 10:57 PM
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if 99% of drivers cannot drive to the car's potential, you're saying that assuming there are 1000 GT3's in this country, there are 10 owner/drivers that can? (rolling eyes like an exorcism). sorry but I seriously disagree....
Bottom line is that a sunroof does'nt matter, but it's still crap..............
Bottom line is that a sunroof does'nt matter, but it's still crap..............
07-21-2006, 01:29 AM
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Keep in mind a panel with a hole in it must have sheet metal doublers spot welded the perimeter of the aperture, this, along with the [perimeter] folded return flange will greatly increase panel or assembly stiffness. Yes, its increased weight, but not necessarily less stiff.
07-21-2006, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by icon
only 1% of gt3 buyers can utilize the cars potential?
a little bit overly pessimistic, don't you think?
but, i do agree the sunroof is not that big of an issue.
jeff
a little bit overly pessimistic, don't you think?
but, i do agree the sunroof is not that big of an issue.
jeff
07-21-2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by enthusiast
This driving ability argument is way off.
Porsche AG is marketing racing heritage and certain performance features in the GT3 model. The car is not improving in areas where it should and with some features it is going backwards.
For those who want these non performance items order one of the other nice Porsche vehicles.
Porsche AG is marketing racing heritage and certain performance features in the GT3 model. The car is not improving in areas where it should and with some features it is going backwards.
For those who want these non performance items order one of the other nice Porsche vehicles.
I said that I personally HATE the idea of the sunroof due to the principle of the thing. I agree.
That said, I don't think that there are very many drivers who can say that a sunroof would in any way "hold them back" or materially effect their laptimes.