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Old 05-19-2006, 09:06 PM
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8 pots front, 4 pots rear

Not changing any other components of the braking system
Old 05-20-2006, 01:14 AM
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drool....
nice.
Old 05-20-2006, 01:45 AM
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beyound gorgeous,

I think the pistons are Titanium, is this true?
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those Those are just beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyooooooooooooooooootiful!

Wish I'd known about these before I had my PCCB's replaced with the Alcon's (which, I believe add 10lbs per corner )

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Old 05-20-2006, 09:56 AM
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Great post. But not sure about the math...

PCCBs (including pads) = 90.4
GTRs (including pads) = 94.8

Is, I think, the correct like-for-like comparison.
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Originally Posted by AVoyvoda
Great post. But not sure about the math...

PCCBs (including pads) = 90.4
GTRs (including pads) = 94.8

Is, I think, the correct like-for-like comparison.
You are correct, thanks for catching the error. I pososted the info emailed to me by the installer. Yikes!
Old 05-21-2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by grussell
380mm & 328mm
Did you have to downsize on the rear for a purpose? Im sure Brembo do a 355mm at the back.
Also are you running 19" rims cos the websites say the 380mm fronts only fits 19s?
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 silverback
Did you have to downsize on the rear for a purpose? Im sure Brembo do a 355mm at the back.
Also are you running 19" rims cos the websites say the 380mm fronts only fits 19s?
Thanks

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Brembo supplies the GTR kit with the 380 mm fronts and 328 mm rears.

You can run it on 18 " rims provided you have proper clearance (custom rims or I have been told that the Gt2 rims will clear them). I added a 5mm spacer for the front wheels just for some extra clearance too.
Old 05-21-2006, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanN
those Those are just beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyooooooooooooooooootiful!

Wish I'd known about these before I had my PCCB's replaced with the Alcon's (which, I believe add 10lbs per corner )
Alan I can only pressume most of the saving is in the callipers? Iron rotors can't have too much variance in weight. This will cost a lot more than the alcons (someone said 10k USD above), and I'm not sure if there are dust seals etc on these callipers (didn't look like it?) which isn't ideal if you aren't constantly stripping and cleaning etc. Frankly I can't feel the extra unsprung weight with the alcons, but if I could I'd buy some lighter alloys

Still no comment as to whether these maintain the ebrake/handbrake.
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Originally Posted by DanH
Alan I can only pressume most of the saving is in the callipers? Iron rotors can't have too much variance in weight. This will cost a lot more than the alcons (someone said 10k USD above), and I'm not sure if there are dust seals etc on these callipers (didn't look like it?) which isn't ideal if you aren't constantly stripping and cleaning etc. Frankly I can't feel the extra unsprung weight with the alcons, but if I could I'd buy some lighter alloys

Still no comment as to whether these maintain the ebrake/handbrake.
yes, the hand brake is retained.
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I am concerned with the very tight clearances between wheel rim and calliper (see photo, 18 inch wheels). Suppose, for example, road debris - a stone - enter the space between spokes and disk. There's no place for it to escape. Eventually it could wedge itself at the narowest point, between the wheel rim and the top of the calliper. What then?

To date, the largest available factory or after-market brakes for 18 inch wheels are 350-355 and offer plenty of clearance. Is safety an issue with 380s?
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Originally Posted by AVoyvoda
To date, the largest available factory or after-market brakes for 18 inch wheels are 350-355 and offer plenty of clearance. Is safety an issue with 380s?
JZM Alcons currently fitted to my Mk1 GT3 are 360mm and fit behind the regular 8Jx18 ET52 SportDesign rims with absolutely no problem (using the original 5mm spacer as it came from the factory).

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[QUOTE=
To date, the largest available factory or after-market brakes for 18 inch wheels are 350-355 and offer plenty of clearance. Is safety an issue with 380s?[/QUOTE]

Not so 370mm all round look here..
DesignTek BRAKES,



www.design911.co.uk

...rob
Old 05-22-2006, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AVoyvoda
I am concerned with the very tight clearances between wheel rim and calliper (see photo, 18 inch wheels). Suppose, for example, road debris - a stone - enter the space between spokes and disk. There's no place for it to escape. Eventually it could wedge itself at the narowest point, between the wheel rim and the top of the calliper. What then?

To date, the largest available factory or after-market brakes for 18 inch wheels are 350-355 and offer plenty of clearance. Is safety an issue with 380s?

Hmmmm!!! That wheel look familiar

Stock calipers on a TT dont have that much room either...........
Old 05-23-2006, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Basically, it presents the same weight reduction as the PCCB, with much better stopping power.
While these brakes seem much better than PCCB for reliability and economy, the weight savings is a bit deceiving. It's much preferable to reduce the rotating/unsprung mass (rotors) than just the unsprung mass. But, I'd still buy them over PCCB...


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