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Old 10-05-2005, 03:50 AM
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My good friend with my help bought an 02 GT2, instead of the GT3...it looked like the obvious choice, but after driving it I am a little bit suprised.

It's alot softer than the GT3...it floats and bounces more, it's very slopy.
It is not as enjoyable as the GT3 to drive fast. at least around corners, he not happy with it, he feels that a car with a price tag of the GT2 would be a little bit better, okay alot better or at least as good as the GT3, it's not.

On the power the torque comes on smooth, between shifts it lays down a fair bit. it's quick, we have not tried it on a roll with my GT3 yet..soon.

Could the shocks have gone dead? it has 1200 miles on it.

Does anybody have any experience with driving the 02 GT2 vs. 04/5 GT3.
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Well, I recently got a GT2 and have the same experience. I am disappointed ower how the car feels, especially in high speed corners. I also tested a friends GT2 and it behaves in the same way. I think it needs firmer springs , at least rear. I am currently looking for a suitable suspension-kit. Manthey´s kit looks interesting (produced by KW), does anyone have experience with this kit?


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Manthey's GT3 kit is well liked in the UK from what I can gather, but I don't know anything about the GT2 one.

One of the things that put me off GT2s was the lack of chassis development compared to GT3s, and they sold so few its not likely to change much on that front. Hell even Porsche didn't seem to spend too much time on the basic setup.
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Interesting. I wonder how much of the difference has to do with weight vs. chassis development and if this was something addressed with the suspension changes the factory made for 04.
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I suggest that you continue to work with the car. I know that you spent a lot of money on it, and feel that it should be better right out of the box, but I drove a well setup one at Watkins Glen race track this summer and it was awesome. A little heavier feeling than my GT3, but stable, very fast, and a good 3 seconds quicker around the track without really trying.
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Since I own both I'll chime in too, the GT2 is far superior. In fact, so superior that I never (and I mean never) drive the GT3!

However, it's a car you want to get to know carefully, before you get on it. There's a whole lot more in it than you think (as has been demonstrated to me) and maybe the driver just doesn't have it settled on the suspension when it needs to be.

Without sounding critical ( because I'm in the same boat) it may have a whole lot more to do with driving technique (the massive power can be disconcerting) than with the suspension (have you adjusted the swaybars)....see Larry's video of the lap at Watkins(?).
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I've been researching on the GT2 for a while.

I think the chassis is exactly the same on both cars. Different springs and shocks compared to the GT3 (no info on spring rates). The increased rear track comes from the wheels offset and not from suspension pick-up points changes.

I've compared a GT2 and a GT3 at a Porsche shop (both on a lift). Same distance on the strut towers front and rear, same sizes suspension components, the only difference I found was that GT2 springs were yellow and GT3 ones were red.

The downside is that the GT2 community is pretty small and on that small community there is an even smaller group modifying their cars, and on that smaller group there is an almost non-existent group modifying their cars to the extent of suspension/transmission.

If GT2 prices keep coming down, there is no doubt that a 996GT2 will be a better option for the money than a 997GT3.
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Originally Posted by Colm
Since I own both I'll chime in too, the GT2 is far superior. In fact, so superior that I never (and I mean never) drive the GT3!

However, it's a car you want to get to know carefully, before you get on it. There's a whole lot more in it than you think (as has been demonstrated to me) and maybe the driver just doesn't have it settled on the suspension when it needs to be.

Without sounding critical ( because I'm in the same boat) it may have a whole lot more to do with driving technique (the massive power can be disconcerting) than with the suspension (have you adjusted the swaybars)....see Larry's video of the lap at Watkins(?).
This is probably true. I have just done one track day with the GT2 and took it very easy, perhaps with some more time behind the wheel I feel more comfortable with it. Previosly I had a 993tt and I notice that the GT2 requires much more precision in your inputs than the turbo did. But I still think that the "floating" feeling I get when driving fast, but far from the limit, on the road is something I would't expect from a modern "supercar".

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Anders - did you find that the 993tt had a floating feeling in corners? I feel mine sometimes wants to get sideways a little too easily.
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*****If GT2 prices keep coming down, there is no doubt that a 996GT2 will be a better option for the money than a 997GT3. *****


I agree I paid $ 104,000 for the GT3 new and i know of an 02 GT2 for $ 110,000 now if I can just get the wife to agree

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Stiffer springs, Motons, lower it and adjust alignment - should be good to go!
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Originally Posted by 85Gold
*****If GT2 prices keep coming down, there is no doubt that a 996GT2 will be a better option for the money than a 997GT3. *****


I agree I paid $ 104,000 for the GT3 new and i know of an 02 GT2 for $ 110,000 now if I can just get the wife to agree

Peter
Agree ... and even considering the soft market, I don't think the GT2 will depreciate down to $85k in another year.

85Gold, I know the car well

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Larry,

Was the GT2 you drove stock? this car is not like the GT3...it's to soft...needs alot more shock rebound.

The power is good but it lays down between shifts...safer yes but i dont like it...if you were to compare them completely stock and could not modify them, I would...with out a doubt go for the GT3 or maybe 2 Z06's, I could not live with the 02 GT2 stock.
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Originally Posted by Z06
My good friend with my help bought an 02 GT2, instead of the GT3...it looked like the obvious choice, but after driving it I am a little bit suprised.

It's alot softer than the GT3...it floats and bounces more, it's very slopy.
It is not as enjoyable as the GT3 to drive fast. at least around corners, he not happy with it, he feels that a car with a price tag of the GT2 would be a little bit better, okay alot better or at least as good as the GT3, it's not.

On the power the torque comes on smooth, between shifts it lays down a fair bit. it's quick, we have not tried it on a roll with my GT3 yet..soon.

Could the shocks have gone dead? it has 1200 miles on it.

Does anybody have any experience with driving the 02 GT2 vs. 04/5 GT3.
I disagree about the softness concerns, they are different cars, one narrow body and one wideboy, different handling and ride. One is Turbo one is NA. different types of throttle response. I had the GT2 on a 500 mile run last Saturday and I dont find anything you say close to true. You need to compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges. The GT2 is not a car for everyone, your friend should have had driven the car before buying it and be glad he bought in this soft market opposed to MSRP.


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