If you would take the GT2 & GT3 set them up for track use.. shocks, springs.

Add power to the GT2...say 600 HP/TQ package + 100 lb weight loss with the wheels and seats

Remove 200/250lbs of weight from the GT3

How would they compare for track use..lap times?

Is the GT2 going to be that much quicker?
I would think so..at least on a larger race track.

 

It's not the case of it being quicker or not, it's more the case of the driver handling such a broad amount of power coming out of that rear mounted engine. The GT2 is already reputable for scarying the sh*t out of drivers that aren't used to the handling of a 460 BHP car. Though I don't own either a GT2 or GT3 I can attest through seeing posts on here and hearing about accidents that the GT2 sets itself far apart from the GT3 in regard to power. (naturally) I see that you're very interested in a GT2. have you test driven one yet?

If you do make the purchase, learn to drive that GT2 hard and fast, then consider the 600 HP upgrade. However, 600 HP maybe too much even for some tracks out there. Good luck on your research for your new toy I hope to join the GT2 crowd someday in 10-12 years

 

Z06,

Interesting questions.

GT2/3s have no rear seats, so loosing 100# with wheels/tires and passenger seat in a GT2 is a tall order. Loosing 250# out of a GT3 is even tougher. May be you need CF body parts. But hoods, fenders are relatively light to begin with, so it's hard to tell.

OTOH, if you are into such intense track experience, you'll need to add cage, fire system, and other safety features in your car, that all adds weight.

As for track time, much depends on what type of track. If you run tight tracks with short staright sections, massive HP only provides marginal advantage. If you do large banked ovals, long straights, and wide passing lanes, then the HP gain starts to shine.

In any case, only very seasoned race tuners/mechanics are truely qualified to give definitive advice here. You are pushing the outer limits of some extremely competent cars out of the box.

Good luck.

CP

 

Not sure about after the mods, but having ridden in my neighbor's GT2, I could already tell that it is a different beast conpared to my GT3.

 

Ignoring the weight loss issues, since i have tracked both cars extensively, I can provide some advice.

I raced in the 24 hours of Daytona in the mid 1990s, with Enzo's team and a GT-2 (993).

Such cars should not be compared. The driving technique is so different. Yes, the GT2 is scary, but with LOTS of track seat time is controllable (I mean >20 days at a minimum). The GT3 is easier out of the box, but takes more finesse to drive fast - this will come much more quickly, but will never challenge a GT2, even under your artificial constraints.

 

Check out my video. That was the first time I have driven a GT2. I humbly submit that if you have the experience, understand what the car is all about, and have the talent to drive well, it is a very rewarding car to drive. At if you can drive a GT3 well, you can drive a GT2. But, it is not for the novice or intermediate driver.

 

It may be instructive to view the results of te Targa Tasmania this year. Until the Gallardo crashed out it was easily leading. Otherwise, GT2s and Skylines (real ones) easily led the Turbos and GT3s, and all the Ferrari riff-raff. Having said that, if you have to ask, then the Gallardo or GT3 are probably better choices; they at least do try and assist the driver. Most of the others demand that the driver dominate them. Don't be put off by talk of the Gallardo understeering, drive through it.
R+C

 

A 993 GT2 sure, but the 996 GT2 is hardly the race bred icon the 993 iteration was. For the 996 generation all that development went into the GT3s...

I've heard stories of extremely competent Carrera Cup racers in the UK stacking GT2s on test tracks etc. In the end I was put off buying one because if some of the best in the business think its a nightmare and have stacked them, I was unlikely to have a better experience! Still, I'm certain the RS I got instead is more to my taste anyway. Even the dealers were trying to put me off a GT2!

In the end though, get whatever floats your boat. You can always change if you make the wrong purchase!

 

Both great cars. Gt3 is more fun, Gt2 is more challenging. I never chipped mine, it was fast enough rt out of the box for the track. Might be fun for the street though. The secret is to keep it a gear higher than the 3 at all times on the track The 3 needs the higher RPM and momentum anyway.

 

im curious, as a 993tt owner,
how much more difficult (monster?) is the 993gt2 vs 996gt2 ? Given the 993tt is much more raw than a 996tt, can i assume a 993gt2 is a much bigger handful than a 996gt2?

 

The 996 GT2 is sweet ... it will run with anything out there. I'm no expert driver, though I ran karts many moons ago, and the car has NEVER scared me. If you keep it on the pipe, the power is VERY easy to manage.

Now it's been there, done that ... time to move on.

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G

 

nice car! is that some kind of special stitching option on the console storage compartment lid?

 

Thanks,
No ... it's standard

G

 

cigarette1, it's actually an option. Good luck selling the car, looks beautiful.

 

On the same scale my stock GT3 weight was 3130 lbs when I got it, and recently down to 2886 lbs. Still on the stock exhaust, and almost 250 lbs down. Car has a full interior (in full leather).

The hood, fenders and deck lid on the street GT3 are pretty heavy. CF Hood (-27 lbs), Cup car deck lid (-27 lbs), PC680 battery (-20 lbs), Lee's exhaust (-67 lbs), and the lighter 1 piece Magnesium wheels vs my BBS racing wheels (-20 lbs) are next on the list. CF fenders and bumpers later.

Things get crazy once you hit the 2700 lbs mark. GT3RSR doors are 120 lbs lighter (bye bye door locks, power windows and power mirrors). The A/C delete option was 45 lbs lighter. Radio, carpeting, glovebox, plastic rear and side windows.

I really prefer a lightweight car than a powerful car. A 500 lbs lighter GT3 should be as fast as a stock GT2 on straight line, but it will be better on braking and cornering.