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Old 03-31-2005 | 11:03 PM
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Awesome, thanks! I went for a ride in a 996 with a JRZ suspension and Dunlop slicks at VIR last weekend and was in awe of it's stick. I have never driven one, but obviously the capabilities are much higher than the 64s and the 93s. I love my old 964 though and the fact that you have to be smooth and thoughtful to make it around the track quickly.

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Old 03-31-2005 | 11:31 PM
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Jim Newman,

Wow, that's like having the Coors Triplets in one night well maybe spread over a long weekend. Ahem.

It reminds us what's unique to each iteration and the joys of each. What a lucky guy....thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Viken
Noel, what do you mean their missions are different? They are both street/track versions of their respective naturally aspirated street models. Also, what is a 993 RSA?
Viken, by their mission I refer to the 993 3.8 RS and GT3 RS both being homolgation specials, where the GT3 is not.

Opps! I think I mean't to say 964 RSA...
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I'll trade my 993 Cups for the Coor's triplets.....I wonder if I'll have to let my wife know i made this trade????
Old 04-01-2005 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSolid
Viken, by their mission I refer to the 993 3.8 RS and GT3 RS both being homolgation specials, where the GT3 is not.

Opps! I think I mean't to say 964 RSA...
Wasn't the first GT3 a homologation special? I think a standard GT3 falls under the umbrella of the RS mission in terms of track/street character even if the most recent homologation car was a GT3RS. Remember that there are slightly different flavors of RS. The 964RS was more brutal than most for example. The GT3 flavor isn't as light which I think is its biggest problem, but I still think it's of the RS breed. In other words, of all the times that there have been 911 RS's offered I don't think any other 911 offered alongside an RS was as close to an RS as a GT3.
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Coors' triplets? eh what...I haven't been in a coma , have I ? last time I looked all they had was those twins
Old 04-01-2005 | 03:06 AM
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Great review Jim, thanks!
Old 04-01-2005 | 04:55 AM
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Regarding the weight of the 993 RS, it is listed in the "Porsche Technical data" as 2800 lbs even. Distribution is 1091 lbs front and 1708 lbs rear.

I know... there is a pound missing
Old 04-01-2005 | 11:22 AM
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Wow Jim!. that is a great synopsis. I had contacted you in DEC re your 964. Thanks for the Pics etc. I ended up with a GT3 that I aquired just last week. When I learn to drive it properly then maybe I would go to a cup car situation. Thanks Again
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Old 04-01-2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSolid
You really shouldn't compare a GT3 with a 993 3.8 RS, as their missions are different. A better, more valid comparison would the the GT3 RS & 993 3.8 RS, or GT3 & 993 RSA.
Why not, IMO that's a very valid comparison, between 993 & 996 models, proper comparisons are 993 RS with 996 GT3 & 993 RSCS (ClubSport) with 996 GT3RS.
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Jim, thanks for the comparison, very interesting always.
Old 04-01-2005 | 01:34 PM
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The 3040 lbs for a GT3 is a very optimistic number. My car weigthed 3200+ lbs on a full tank of gas when new, and my car is a low option one.
Old 04-01-2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
The 3040 lbs for a GT3 is a very optimistic number. My car weigthed 3200+ lbs on a full tank of gas when new, and my car is a low option one.
Very true, factory weight numbers are always with absolutely 0 options, smallest wheel choise (if there is a choise) possible etc.
I'm guessing there isn't any 3040 lbs GT3 (that owner hasn't stripped), at least in US.

And I think Porsche probably weights their cars with helium in the wheels.
Old 04-01-2005 | 09:12 PM
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I just took mine off the scales today...2996lbs full tank. Lighty optioned. And bone stock
Old 04-01-2005 | 10:01 PM
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Rolo, you got a very light one. Did the factory leave something off? My 04 no A/C, no mats, no options at all left the dealer at about 3140lbs with a full tank of gas.



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