Difference between 2000 & 2004 GT-3
#1
Difference between 2000 & 2004 GT-3
Can anyone tell me what differences there are between the 2000 GT-3 and the 2004 GT-3? Also the difference between the 2000 GT-3 Clubsports and the 2004 GT-3 (non Clubsports).
Thank you!
Thank you!
#2
The club sport just adds harnesses and rollcage.
As for the differences between the '00 and the '04
1.) 360 horsepower ('00) vs 381 horsepower ('04) but in actuality the mkII seem to be putting out 400 hp+
2.) the suspension is different between the two cars
3.) The bodywork is different between the two cars (i.e. wing, front bumper, sideskirts (i think), headlights).
4.) The brakes are different (better) on the '04
5.) I believe the gearing is different
I'm sure others can chime in the with the rest but those are certainly the major points. The '04 is significantly faster acceleration wise.
As for the differences between the '00 and the '04
1.) 360 horsepower ('00) vs 381 horsepower ('04) but in actuality the mkII seem to be putting out 400 hp+
2.) the suspension is different between the two cars
3.) The bodywork is different between the two cars (i.e. wing, front bumper, sideskirts (i think), headlights).
4.) The brakes are different (better) on the '04
5.) I believe the gearing is different
I'm sure others can chime in the with the rest but those are certainly the major points. The '04 is significantly faster acceleration wise.
#3
Rika,
Mk.1 2000 Clubsport option include the following:
Single mass flywheel
Nomex GT3 seats
Schrot 6-point harness on driver side
Porsche Motorsport rollcage built by Matter
Fire extinguisher mounted on the floor on the passenger side
Internal and external electrical kill-switch
Side airbag delete
and if I'm not mistaking, it is also less sound insulated.
Ciao,
Johannes E.
Mk.1 2000 Clubsport option include the following:
Single mass flywheel
Nomex GT3 seats
Schrot 6-point harness on driver side
Porsche Motorsport rollcage built by Matter
Fire extinguisher mounted on the floor on the passenger side
Internal and external electrical kill-switch
Side airbag delete
and if I'm not mistaking, it is also less sound insulated.
Ciao,
Johannes E.
#5
PICS of Clubsport
"Here is a photo of my 2000 GT-3 Clubsport. Who could I contact to obtain more specific information on the differences between this car (2000 GT-3 Clubsport and a 2004 GT-3 (non-Clubsport). BrianPA's information was helpful. Specifically, I need information relating to bumpers, seatbelts, lights, mirrors etc., as opposed to engine/emissions related information. Thank you."
#6
From a purely subjective standpoint, while everyone agrees the MkII is faster, some drivers think the MkI is the car with more enjoyable handling characteristics. They say it's more interactive with better control at the limit. I've never driven either, so this is only hearsay...
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#9
To cosmetically change the look to a Mk.II, you will need to replace the following parts:
Front bumper + lip
Rear bumber
Sideskirts
Rear wing
Brake discs + calipers
Headlights
Front fenders
Rims
Tailpipes
What I've been told Mk.II suspension will not fit the Mk.I
Don't know what mods you need to do to get the engine to Mk.II specs but I can imagine it will be difficult, thinking of that it is e-gas rather than wire throttle and that ndicates a totally different engine management and wiring.
As for the interior, I don't remember but thing that the LCD gauge clusters are slightly different and perhaps some dash details.
As I have said before, the Mk.I Clubsport is bound to become a collectors car with very few units built to this spec out of a total of arounf 1850 Mk.I GT3's and I would therefore not proceed with a facelift. But hey, it's your call!
Ciao,
Johannes E.
Front bumper + lip
Rear bumber
Sideskirts
Rear wing
Brake discs + calipers
Headlights
Front fenders
Rims
Tailpipes
What I've been told Mk.II suspension will not fit the Mk.I
Don't know what mods you need to do to get the engine to Mk.II specs but I can imagine it will be difficult, thinking of that it is e-gas rather than wire throttle and that ndicates a totally different engine management and wiring.
As for the interior, I don't remember but thing that the LCD gauge clusters are slightly different and perhaps some dash details.
As I have said before, the Mk.I Clubsport is bound to become a collectors car with very few units built to this spec out of a total of arounf 1850 Mk.I GT3's and I would therefore not proceed with a facelift. But hey, it's your call!
Ciao,
Johannes E.
#11
My predicament
Thanks for all the replies. I'm not considering a facelift. I imported this car from Japan to the U.S. (LA) and I have to establish to the US Deparatment of Transportation (DOT) that my car is similar to the GT3 2004 (safety related components) in order to keep it here. Otherwise I have to export it out of the country. Is my car completely different. Is this car "so dangerous" that I can't drive it on the streets here? Or is it "substantially similar" to the GT3 2004 so that I can keep it here? What if I took out the roll cage?
#12
Frankly, I believe it's much safer w/ the cage, but don't know what DOT has on there minds.
No Mark 1's have been crash tested for the US, that I'm aware of.
Good luck & keep us posted.
Bill
No Mark 1's have been crash tested for the US, that I'm aware of.
Good luck & keep us posted.
Bill
#15
Originally Posted by cosmos
Its ok, don't worry. Your car is very similar to any MK1 996 with an aero kit. Your car will pass DOT approval with no problem.
That's questionable. I worked for a gray market importer in the 80's and dealt extensively with these issues. For starters, you'll need to prove that the bumpers on your car are the same as the US cars, that there are beams in the doors for side impact, that the warning lights on the dash are the approved symbols, that the seat belt buzzer goes off for the appropriate time, the speedo is in mph, the sidemarker lights are the right color, the glass meets the US standards, etc. I don't know how much the rules have changed in the last 20 years but it's no slam dunk by any means. (For example, Porsche said back then that the 959, which was also a version of the 911, couldn't be brought into compliance with DOT standards and the DOT therefore never approved any for road use here until many years later under restrictive use.)
How about the EPA? That's another headache.
I don't know how the rules have changed since I was in the biz, but there are still some shops doing gray market conversion and they can tell you everything that needs to be done to get it registered. There are some GT3RS's here that have been converted. Find out who did those and ask them.
Also, I'm told that CA issues a certain number of registrations to kit cars, etc that don't meet the rules at the beginning of January every year. That might also be worth looking into since it's coming up very soon. Call the DMV or visit their website.
Good luck.