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Old 04-05-2022 | 11:03 AM
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Looks like at least a few of us own both a 996 GT3 and a 964.

Who all has this combo? Which did you own first? How long have you owned each?

I have owned my 964 for a little more than 5 years now. It was my very first Porsche. The 996.2 GT3 is still very new to me. I bought it late last September.

Stepping outside the 964 box, any of you have an air cooled keeping your GT3 company?






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Old 04-05-2022 | 11:28 AM
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I have an 87 Carrera, it has been in my garage for 17 years now.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 02:37 PM
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I stupidly sold my 81 sc hotrod/outlaw (with a pascha interior and a 3.2 carrera motor) when I bought my scud. I should have kept it as I really miss it. So slow compared to the gt3, but not so slow as to be annoying. But very fun to drive and had so much style. I'm pretty sure my next car will be a 930. I like the fact that they have that iconic 80's look with a widebody and a motor that can be pretty easily modded to more "modern" power levels (for this reason, I kind of need a project that I won't feel bad about "defiling.").

Old 04-05-2022 | 03:17 PM
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Sold my 964 C4 to get a 993 C2, which traded for my GT3.

My garage and wallet can not afford two 911s.

Nice garage, by the way. Kind of looks like you sleep in it.
Old 04-05-2022 | 04:14 PM
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Yes, that is quite a nice garage. Mine for comparison, lol



Had the 964 for 4 years, GT3 since last summer. The 964 has been my dream car since they first came out, and I bought this one to replace a built E46 M3 track car as my track car. Then the GT3 was bought to replace the 964 as the track car when the sentimental value of the 964 got too high, and prices too high to easily replace it. Unfortunately, as I fix little things and “restore” the GT3, it is headed down that same sentimental/replacement route and I may need to find another track car before I even track this one, lol.

One of the initial disappointments I had with the GT3 was the steering. I kept seeing everyone rave about it, but it felt a bit numb and loose to me and wasn’t close to the feedback I get from the 964 (though it is full monoballs). Last weekend, while playing with it and doing some research, I saw some posts on the turbo forum where the steering column u joint bolts can come loose and it results in the loose feeling I had. Took off the driver wheel and checked, and yep, both it and the one under the dash had room to snug up. Took it for a drive afterward and it felt so much better. The twitchiness that I thought was the inherent twitchy nature everyone talks about was gone, and it finally felt planted in the corners. I just wanted to keep driving it all day. If I didn’t need the backseat, I would sell the M3 and make this my daily like Marv and others have done.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 05:22 PM
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I am very lucky and have two GT3’s the 991.2 Touring is my DD and the 6/3 I use for HPDE, love them both for different reasons. I also have a 993 C4S that replaced a Euro 79 SC. The 993 is unlike any air cooled car that I have owned it is completely stock and very soft compared to the other cars and makes a nice Sunday driver. I toyed with the idea of selling the 993 but I have been tinkering with a few minor issues and resolved my storage issue so I may just hang on to her. For the same reason as @Sirenty I have been toying with the idea of adding another track car. Actually made an offer the other day for a nicely set up 996.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 06:23 PM
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I enjoy driving the Carrera on the back roads more than the GT-3 for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it is much slower and does not need to be driven well above the speed limit to be fun.

There is nothing like it, although the 6-3 is close, just too fast and capable, by the time you are into the sweet sounding rev range you are in super speeder territory.
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964 going on 6 years and gt3 about 1.5! Both enjoyed equally but in different ways

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Old 04-05-2022 | 07:46 PM
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Had many 964's first, then came the 996 GT3...That was it! Once I drove the GT3, it was all she wrote. I kept my last 964 for another year or so after buying the 6-3, but it saw very little drive time. Don't get me wrong, I love the 964 platform, but the GT3 is just soooooo much better, other than the air-cooled part of the 964. I eventually traded the 6-3 and my 2011 Boxster Spyder (a great car too BTW), for my current and likely last 2 door P car...my 08 RS. What a machine!!!!

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Old 04-06-2022 | 10:57 AM
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996 GT3 came first for me, owned a 993 for some time but found it hard to justify having both and often chose the GT3 for anything but "date night" drives in the city. Recently added an 86 911 that will be getting The Keen Project treatment in the near future, for now it offers a much different driving experience to the GT3 for local drives.

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I definitely dig and appreciate the different experiences between the 964 and the GT3.
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I bought a 90 964 C4 in 2019 as my first 911. It had a lot of deferred maintenance and overall was a learning experience. After I sold it right after the pandemic started, I regretted it and went to look for another around August of 2020 only to find that prices became absurd. Instead, I began looking at 996s as a temporary project car. Once I had a few proper drives in the 99 C2, I realized that it was almost just as engaging of an experience with a lot more creature comforts and just generally more pleasant to drive around and own. I was one of the people that hated on the 996 for the headlights so I never considered a 996 GT3 until I got the C2. After owning the 99 C2 for awhile, I was pretty confident that the 996 GT3 would be a holy grail car and by that time, I began viewing the 996.2 headlights as one of the prettiest headlight designs (weird how things change over time, right?). Anyway, I got lucky with my 6GT3 purchase and it's exceeded expectations.

If I added an aircooled car to my collection, it'd be a '73 RSR tribute build. Something that is just pure eye candy.

Here's my C4 in its natural habitat:


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Had a fairly hot-rodded 993 that I sold when I bought my gt3. Loved that car but a lot of overlap with the gt3, both being track focused. I would love to add a nice driver 3.2 to keep mostly stock. Anything much older and I wouldn't drive it much. Decent A/C is a must and the 3.2 with r134a is sufficient.
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I had a '90 964 Targa for seven years that I drove one season on the track and added an '89 944 Turbo (S spec which was cheaper than trying to make the Targa any good for a fast track). Then I sold the '89 for an '88 944 Turbo S. I did a 2 fer and sold the Targa and the 944 to buy a 996.2 GT3. I missed the Targa and lucked into a "barn find" 964 Targa that I rebuilt and added to the GT3. To me the 964 is the best traditional Targa Porsche ever made and is the perfect opposite to the GT3. The Targa is a relaxed, wind on my hairless head cruising kind of car compared to the GT3 that is so much fun to drive but not so over the top competent (like the later GT cars) that you need to go stupid fast before you really need to do the driving. It's like having a full spectrum of 911 driving experience condensed into 2 cars. I don't think I'll part with either.

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Old 04-11-2022 | 08:05 PM
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somehow missed this thread. without question, the 964, 993, and 6.2 GT3 are the sweet spot in porsche's line up for me.


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