Ohlins Dedicated Track system for 996 GT3, anybody ever try them?
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I would assume Tarett would be the easiest place to get them but im sure they r not a custom heim. That would probably make the assembly too expensive. Finding the correct ones elsewhere would just take some research and careful measrements.
See how its captured with a bolt on plate.
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The marketing team that named these "Dedicated Track" should be shot...nothing about a twin tube shock with 600/800 springs should be called dedicated track.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
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The marketing team that named these "Dedicated Track" should be shot...nothing about a twin tube shock with 600/800 springs should be called dedicated track.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
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Mike Dr (01-07-2022)
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The marketing team that named these "Dedicated Track" should be shot...nothing about a twin tube shock with 600/800 springs should be called dedicated track.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
That said...the most common thing people do with R&T is take them and put 600/800 springs on them anyhow so it seems like they listened to the market and made a version with springs they should have had on there all along.
Mike Dr - I'd venture that living somewhere with good roads and going to the track 6-7 times a year these will be perfect, in my opinion they are the R&T that Ohlins should have made from the get go.
My brother has re-sprung R&T's on his car and it's a great package...not bashing the product just the name they chose for this version.
Ok thanks for the advice on the "DedicatedTrack". Any other suspension you would recommend?
Last edited by Mike Dr; 01-07-2022 at 07:07 PM. Reason: Answered my own question
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I also have the KW Clubsport setup. I was doing a little track work but only at Road America. I did a few laps with a friend who raced a 996 Cup car and we made some minor adjustments that dialed it in (after the car was aligned and corner balanced by my local shop). I like the KW's but I don't have anything to compare against.
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Mike Dr (01-08-2022)
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Bumping this old thread. I have the default R&T coilovers with the 400/800 spring rates but one of my front is leaking and needs to be repaired under warranty. I thought it might be a good opportunity to go to their 630lb spring on the front. Has anyone done this with their R&T and if so how is the car on the street? The 400 fronts feel too soft for the track and the car feels like it’s standing on its nose under heavy braking, but it’s nice on twisty roads. I suspect the 630 lb spring will be fine, especially with the ability to adjust the damper stiffness but if anyone has any real world feedback I’d love to hear it.
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U need to check with ohlin to see if they need to be revalved for that spring rate. Also i would hesitate on increasing just the front rate without increasing the rear rate.
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I assume u have tightened the rear sway to max and front to max or 1 from max? This improved my weight transfer to the front, i also softened the rear shocks a couple clicks to load the front under breaking. Doing this with a nt01 245f and 305r has made my steering predictable.
Just trying to make some tuning suggestions before u open up the "can o worms" that r springs. I have yet to have an instructor suggest that i get tighter springs.
Just trying to make some tuning suggestions before u open up the "can o worms" that r springs. I have yet to have an instructor suggest that i get tighter springs.
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I have similar complaints about the 400lb front springs and have been contemplating going to 600 up front as well. I contacted Ohlins USA and they recommended revalving the front shocks.
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I assume u have tightened the rear sway to max and front to max or 1 from max? This improved my weight transfer to the front, i also softened the rear shocks a couple clicks to load the front under breaking. Doing this with a nt01 245f and 305r has made my steering predictable.
Just trying to make some tuning suggestions before u open up the "can o worms" that r springs. I have yet to have an instructor suggest that i get tighter springs.
Just trying to make some tuning suggestions before u open up the "can o worms" that r springs. I have yet to have an instructor suggest that i get tighter springs.
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At this point im sure u have more experience in tuning then me.
My comment for softening the rear is only really relavant when breaking (at least for me). I feel depending on the track this helps me get more weight on the front when turning in and this helps the front end grip. It also helps even out my breaking so the front abs is less active.
For my car it feels like the rear end is always swinging out (even with semisolid motor mounts). This is what i always thought was causing my car to sometimes miss its mark. I did try a set of pirelli scrubs at summit point and the tires seemed to fix all my placement issues....i guess i should be driving them faster?
My comment for softening the rear is only really relavant when breaking (at least for me). I feel depending on the track this helps me get more weight on the front when turning in and this helps the front end grip. It also helps even out my breaking so the front abs is less active.
For my car it feels like the rear end is always swinging out (even with semisolid motor mounts). This is what i always thought was causing my car to sometimes miss its mark. I did try a set of pirelli scrubs at summit point and the tires seemed to fix all my placement issues....i guess i should be driving them faster?
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Appreciate the input, and its good discussion for the thread! I have been through all of the sway bar tuning with the stock suspension and on my cup car but I have never liked the way the car feels with the bar stiffer in the rear than the front. Yes it will turn better but I found the rear end was freaky on entry and mid corner. Can you elaborate more on how softening the rear shocks increased weight transfer to the front? By softening you are slowing the rate of compression and rebound in the rear, which in theory should actually slow the forwards weight transfer, not speed it up? I am basically trying to speed up the forward weight transfer so that I don't have to trail brake as much. The cup car has a roughly 100 lb split front to rear and it's great, much easier to trail brake without the rear hanging in the air. My previous GT3 also had a similar split and the result was the same. A predictable, sharp front end - weight transfer fore and aft was quick.
I had two way coilovers installed this year and have been learning as much as I can and experimenting with them. On the street with 500/700 lb springs, I thought I would have to turn them down to get a comfortable, “soft” ride, but the car feels too jittery and bouncy (because they weren’t affecting the springs as much). I slowly learned I have to have them turned up more than halfway to get a well behaved, comfortable ride that absorbs bumps well.
Hopefully someone corrects me if I’m wrong. Still learning.