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Old 09-11-2017, 10:28 AM
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This is from Gaudin Porsche, Las Vegas, 9/11/17:
Rotors, 4 @ $6,443 = $25,772
Front Pads $853.88
Rear Pads $351

TOTAL: $26,976.88

The rotors are supposedly good for 300,000 K or 186,411 miles....assuming they are not abused at the track. I intend to go to the track so these puppies are coming off. I am actively in the process, getting GIRO 2 piece rotors up front, stock GT3 on the rear, until the budget permits a second set of GIRO rotors.

Haven't decided to shelf the ceramics, or to sell them off. Process pending...this is NOT a solicitation.

After recently spending north of $70,000 on my/our 10,000 mile Carrera White 6GT3, she is watching me like a hawk. I suppose if she spent $5,000 on a purse as some ladies do, I'd have my eye on her too.
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Practice this in front of a mirror until you can say it with a straight face:

"Honey, you know I wouldn't have done if I'd known you'r get so mad."

This worked for me for many years. Now after being together for 45 years, she just doesn't care anymore - ;>)
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"Now after being together for 45 years, she just doesn't care anymore - ;>)" Mine gave up after 29 years.
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Originally Posted by Martin S.


Haven't decided to shelf the ceramics, or to sell them off. Process pending...this is NOT a solicitation.

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put them on a shelf
YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

REALLY
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Smile YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

I do see what would regret? I won't be using them and they'll just gather dust. What am I missing here? If you have the energy and time, I'd love some of your ideas on this topic.


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put them on a shelf
YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU SELL THE BITS

REALLY
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Which part of Porsche racing did you think was going to be cheap? The Porsche or the racing?
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Default Y0u got me on that one..

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Which part of Porsche racing did you think was going to be cheap? The Porsche or the racing?
I am taking off the PCCBs, putting them on the shelf, putting GIRO 2 piece 350mm rotors up front, and as a temporary measure, stock rear and will replace them later with GIRO 2 piece, also 350mm.

Stock front rotors are close to $1,000, with a discount...so for a few bucks more, I am going with the GIRO 2 piece.

Welding up the cooling pipes too...I won't complain about the costs. I just feel compelled to get it done. Had a cooling pipe failure on our Cayenne...don't want to go through that again. I find it hard to believe that Porsche engineering came up with glue as a fastner in a critical area of the car.

In closing, I have yet to get blasé about the performance of the GT3, and the simplicity of the cabin...what an incredible beast! And Porsche Engineering, I forgive you. Welding up the cooling pipes is a minor flaw when gauged against the overall performance and styling of the car.

And PS, I will not sell off the PCCB rotors and pads. They were optioned on the car; they stay with the car.

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You should consider our Essex Designed AP Racing 2-piece discs as well:

https://www.essexparts.com/brake-dis...on-brake-discs

They are the same design we use in pro racing, and they tend to be the longest-lasting option on the market. Thanks.
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Handsome product, looks like the front disc is 380mm, stock front on a GT3 is 350mm. I suppose bigger is always better...with that big of a disc up front, would probably need to upgrade the rear disc, stock is 320mm I believe. I'll go to the web site and look up the cost on the 380mm discs, front. Where do you ship out of?


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You should consider our Essex Designed AP Racing 2-piece discs as well:

https://www.essexparts.com/brake-dis...on-brake-discs

They are the same design we use in pro racing, and they tend to be the longest-lasting option on the market. Thanks.
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We offer the standard 996 GT3 sizes (as well as 997, 991, Turbo, etc.).

Front 350x34=
https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...0RS/Type%20996

Rear 350x28mm, includes a small billet spacer to move the caliper out to accommodate their slightly larger size vs. the stock 330mm discs
https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...28-rear-996gt3

I have some pics of them on a car...I'll see if I can dig them up. I believe it's safe to say that we are currently the most popular option on 991 GT3's right now...tons of very satisfied customers putting many, many miles of track abuse on our discs.












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Also, our spare iron discs rings are only $349 each, although you won't be needing them very often!

We also have Ferodo Racing brake pads in sport (DS2500) or track compounds (DS1.11), and Spiegler stainless steel brake lines.
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
I do see what would regret? I won't be using them and they'll just gather dust. What am I missing here? If you have the energy and time, I'd love some of your ideas on this topic.
short answer from my perspective.
you got the PCCB goodies for "free" when you bought the car.
If you sell, you will get some money.

If you ever want to put them back on, it will cost far more to re-buy, than the $$ you got for selling them tomorrow.

cheers

looking forward to seeing the car, and you.

Craig
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Glad you are welding/pinning the fittings - it is the safe thing to do.

May consider replacing all hoses since these are 13 years old and rubber ages, even when standing still.
Consider replacing water expansion tank, they too crack.

The 996-3 is front brake biased so in order to keep the rear behind the car, recommend using the larger 350 rear per Essex mentioned above and pads with more grip in the rear. By getting new rotors for front that may be more effective than rear, may not give you the balance you want.
Also, limited slip, rage stock wears out quickly as in 2-3 track weekends, so recommend an upgrade while engine is out.

Cats, depends on how many track weekends you will do, but after25 or so, replace the cats as they can melt and cause back pressure and fail the top.

Good luck and enjoy.
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The front is 350mm if you want to go to 380mm it is possible but you need to either go to 19" wheels or find the correct 18" wheel to clear the caliper.

The rear of the PCCB car is also 350mm so you will need to do a two piece option as well unless you use the steel disc from the rear of a 997 TT which does work.

You can also go with a one piece 350mm rotor for the front it is just ridiculously heavy and you likely will not be happy with the performance, but it does help with cost control.
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Jeff at Essex, I keep getting a 404 error when I click your links to look at the 350mm front/rear products.

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