Do Turbo Brakes swap to 996 C2?
11-12-2003, 03:14 PM
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Do Turbo Brakes swap to 996 C2?
I have the opportunity to get the brake calipers off a lightly used 2002 Turbo, and I want to know if the brake calipers will simply "SWAP" over to my existing system and brake discs, or should I expect a huge and expensive mess???
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
11-12-2003, 09:58 PM
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Carlos is right,......
You need the Turbo front hub carriers and bearings since the Turbo caliper bolt spacing is wider.
Also, Turbo hub carriers are designed for the larger diameter Turbo struts and you'll need those as well.
You need the Turbo front hub carriers and bearings since the Turbo caliper bolt spacing is wider.
Also, Turbo hub carriers are designed for the larger diameter Turbo struts and you'll need those as well.
11-12-2003, 11:56 PM
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Uh-Oh
Originally posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
Carlos is right,......
You need the Turbo front hub carriers and bearings since the Turbo caliper bolt spacing is wider.
Also, Turbo hub carriers are designed for the larger diameter Turbo struts and you'll need those as well.
Carlos is right,......
You need the Turbo front hub carriers and bearings since the Turbo caliper bolt spacing is wider.
Also, Turbo hub carriers are designed for the larger diameter Turbo struts and you'll need those as well.
11-13-2003, 12:28 AM
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Yessir,.....bear in mind that Turbo struts are larger in diameter and only fit the Turbo hub carriers.
If you install the Turbo hub carriers to fit the Turbo brakes, you must use some kind of Turbo struts; Bilstein, H&R, Moton, or whatever,....
If you install the Turbo hub carriers to fit the Turbo brakes, you must use some kind of Turbo struts; Bilstein, H&R, Moton, or whatever,....
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11-13-2003, 10:57 AM
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"Yessir,.....bear in mind that Turbo struts are larger in diameter and only fit the Turbo hub carriers."
unless the PSS9s (for the 996 - not 996TT) or H&R coilovers (for the 996 - not 996TT) are as large as the 996TT struts, that's not true because i have the 996TT brakes on my 996 (2 years ago) and aside from changing the wheel hubs, i made no other modifications besides the above referred coilovers to make it work.
unless the PSS9s (for the 996 - not 996TT) or H&R coilovers (for the 996 - not 996TT) are as large as the 996TT struts, that's not true because i have the 996TT brakes on my 996 (2 years ago) and aside from changing the wheel hubs, i made no other modifications besides the above referred coilovers to make it work.
11-13-2003, 02:06 PM
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how unbalanced would the handling become by adding a set of GT3 front brakes without changing the rear brakes?
Ben did you change both the front and back brakes?
Ben did you change both the front and back brakes?
11-13-2003, 03:36 PM
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yes, i changed front and rear. "unbalanced" is not an issue. however, if i had it to do over again, i'd have just changed the fronts to brembo le mans (lighter than the turbos) and left the rears stock.
11-14-2003, 02:52 PM
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unless the PSS9s (for the 996 - not 996TT) or H&R coilovers (for the 996 - not 996TT) are as large as the 996TT struts, that's not true because i have the 996TT brakes on my 996 (2 years ago) and aside from changing the wheel hubs, i made no other modifications besides the above referred coilovers to make it work.
I changed to tt brakes and I used the TT hubs/carriers it was a nightmare. I had to change the whole suspension to TT because i'm using TT carriers which the struts are thicker. Also, if you bought a turnkey kit, it may had a sleeve that allowed the thinner shocks/struts to go into the 996 one.
to whoever is planning to get the hubs/carriers off a TT to put on the 996 DO NOT DO IT! Look for GT3 hubs/carriers and you will be better off.
I had to customize the tension bolt that holds the hubs in because a 996 TT is AWD meaning it has a drive axel there. The regular 996 Tension bolt which holds the hub in will not fit and if you force it will damage the hub, wheel bearing, etc if you force it in. I paid $300 or so per new axle to cut off the drive shaft just to use a bolt that is worth $70. I was so far into the project it was the only way, unless I threw away the hubs/carriers I paid close to $1k for
11-14-2003, 02:57 PM
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WOW....THANKS
Originally posted by ruey220
Ben, did you go with the TT hubs/carriers or GT3 ones.?
I changed to tt brakes and I used the TT hubs/carriers it was a nightmare. I had to change the whole suspension to TT because i'm using TT carriers which the struts are thicker. Also, if you bought a turnkey kit, it may had a sleeve that allowed the thinner shocks/struts to go into the 996 one.
to whoever is planning to get the hubs/carriers off a TT to put on the 996 DO NOT DO IT! Look for GT3 hubs/carriers and you will be better off.
I had to customize the tension bolt that holds the hubs in because a 996 TT is AWD meaning it has a drive axel there. The regular 996 Tension bolt which holds the hub in will not fit and if you force it will damage the hub, wheel bearing, etc if you force it in. I paid $300 or so per new axle to cut off the drive shaft just to use a bolt that is worth $70. I was so far into the project it was the only way, unless I threw away the hubs/carriers I paid close to $1k for
Ben, did you go with the TT hubs/carriers or GT3 ones.?
I changed to tt brakes and I used the TT hubs/carriers it was a nightmare. I had to change the whole suspension to TT because i'm using TT carriers which the struts are thicker. Also, if you bought a turnkey kit, it may had a sleeve that allowed the thinner shocks/struts to go into the 996 one.
to whoever is planning to get the hubs/carriers off a TT to put on the 996 DO NOT DO IT! Look for GT3 hubs/carriers and you will be better off.
I had to customize the tension bolt that holds the hubs in because a 996 TT is AWD meaning it has a drive axel there. The regular 996 Tension bolt which holds the hub in will not fit and if you force it will damage the hub, wheel bearing, etc if you force it in. I paid $300 or so per new axle to cut off the drive shaft just to use a bolt that is worth $70. I was so far into the project it was the only way, unless I threw away the hubs/carriers I paid close to $1k for
I really appreciate all the input everyone!
This make PAINTING the calipers RED a viable choice...since my c2 brakes (black) work GREAT anyway!
11-14-2003, 03:29 PM
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sennasixty,
oh, if you are looking for the sleeve, I have a guy who may be able to make one for you. Check out www.scargoracing.com and look for rob. He helped me straighten out my mess after another mechanic got me into that hole with the brake upgrade.
He told me had i went to him, he would have been able to make fabrication parts that would have accepted the tt brakes without changing anything. And the good thing is all you need are the brake calipers.
oh, if you are looking for the sleeve, I have a guy who may be able to make one for you. Check out www.scargoracing.com and look for rob. He helped me straighten out my mess after another mechanic got me into that hole with the brake upgrade.
He told me had i went to him, he would have been able to make fabrication parts that would have accepted the tt brakes without changing anything. And the good thing is all you need are the brake calipers.
11-14-2003, 03:54 PM
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hmmmmmm
Originally posted by ruey220
sennasixty,
oh, if you are looking for the sleeve, I have a guy who may be able to make one for you. Check out www.scargoracing.com and look for rob. He helped me straighten out my mess after another mechanic got me into that hole with the brake upgrade.
He told me had i went to him, he would have been able to make fabrication parts that would have accepted the tt brakes without changing anything. And the good thing is all you need are the brake calipers.
sennasixty,
oh, if you are looking for the sleeve, I have a guy who may be able to make one for you. Check out www.scargoracing.com and look for rob. He helped me straighten out my mess after another mechanic got me into that hole with the brake upgrade.
He told me had i went to him, he would have been able to make fabrication parts that would have accepted the tt brakes without changing anything. And the good thing is all you need are the brake calipers.
how much would those "sleeves "cost $ installed...i'm assuming i'd have to re'align the car after the frt end comes apart to install those sleeves!