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Old 02-12-2017, 12:49 AM
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2000 c2 with 47K miles on it that i have been driving consistantly for the last 2 years -after a drive home in heavy rain i left it in the garage for about a week due to some really wet weather here is Seattle - - the car was running well when i parked it but today when I started it up it is running really lumpy and obviosly misfiring - flashing CEL Code p0301 - plugs are about 2 years and 20k old, coils are most likely origanals.
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:25 AM
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Could be a small crack in the coil

If the code comes back, swap coil 1 with 2 and see if the code moves
Old 02-12-2017, 06:11 PM
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don't run the engine when CEL is flashing.
That is definitely a big NO NO..
Old 02-12-2017, 11:32 PM
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Thanks for the replies
how easy of a DIY is cylinder 1 coil replacement ?
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Originally Posted by wyo
Thanks for the replies
how easy of a DIY is cylinder 1 coil replacement ?
#1 is on the left side(driver side), closest to the rear bumper. A bit of a PITA to get out.
Old 02-13-2017, 07:06 AM
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I've switched coils on a 996 and a 997. Thin long, keyboard fingers are very handy when tackling this issue. and also, replace the whole lot when first in there. They will all go eventually.
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You can make room by removing the mufflers. Coils should last more than 45000 miles. I have the originals and I am at 86000. I would only exchange the bad one if it is damaged in any way. They are an expensive item. But that's only my thoughts on the matter. I have the 1999 which has the sleeves around the plugs. It may just be a cracked sleeve and your coil could be ok. Sleeves are cheap but you would need a boat plug to remove the faulty one if yours has them. I don't know if a cracked one would cause a misfire which po301 indicates, but its worth checking that out before spending on coils. If you remove the mufflers as I did changing plugs and sleeves, you may have to break off the heads of the rusty bolts. I soaked mine overnight but they still broke as I attempted to remove the bolts. Easy enough to replace from a good hardware store. I would not attempt to run an engine which has a flashing CEL. Well not until I had found the problem.
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Would a spark plug tube being cracked cause a misfire? Just curious, in case the spark plug &/or the coil pack are not the issue.
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Originally Posted by williamr91
Would a spark plug tube being cracked cause a misfire? Just curious, in case the spark plug &/or the coil pack are not the issue.
Yes, especially in the wet.
Old 02-13-2017, 12:52 PM
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^ add that to the possible cause, they're cheap like 11-15 bucks. I'd switch the coil pack first, if the other cylinder pulls a code it's prob the coil pack, if not, plug or s/p tube.
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The coil has to come out anyways. Once it's out, you'll know if the tube is cracked or the O rings are leaking.
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I did coils, tubes and plugs at one time, while you are in there kinda job.
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Good point IMO and Mattie.
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I attempted to remove and replace the coil on cylinder 1 and had to accept that it was to tight of a space for me , I did not want to remove the muffler
so I had a local indy look at it - their computer pulled multiple cylinder misfire codes so they recommended replacing all of the coils.
I agreed and they say the car is running perfectly now.
I will pick it up tonight and drive it myself to verify
Thanks Again for the help
Old 02-15-2017, 10:05 PM
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If you've got one and the car is on it's original ones , you might be best off to do all 6

Warehouse 33 has a great price on them http://www.warehouse33auto.com/parts...16/14/0/7060/0


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