Speaker upgrade recommendations
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Speaker upgrade recommendations
My car came with an Alpine head unit and amp but it still sounds like complete azz. I assume it has to be the stock junk speakers. I don't want to add a big sub or start cutting the car up for custom enclosures. Can anyone recommend good quality speakers that will fit in the standard cutouts? I have a speaker on each side of the top of the dash and one on each panel next to the rear seats. I'm guessing the base sound system. Would love a rich full sound (not just a ton of bass). Is that even possible given my space limitations??
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https://cai-store.com/collections/99...-05-996-models
They also have a version with less expensive speakers, which I have in my car. The sound is okay.
They also have a version with less expensive speakers, which I have in my car. The sound is okay.
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Speaker wars. I can't really help on what works by brand or model. But - as has been mentioned, you can't get the kind of sound you want without going big.
I can talk about the physics of it, but I'd prolly get banned. Anyway, here's the deal. The lower limitation on the wavelength of the audio you want to reproduce is a non-linear function of the sqrt(dia) of the speaker. So, in layman's terms, smaller speaker, smaller sqrt, smaller wavelength(inverse of freq) limit. Which is why we have woofers and tweeters. It just makes sense that to move a giant round voice coil, and a massive amount of speaker cone at very high frequency sounds like an issue, the converse is also true. Moving a very small voice coil, and a small cone of paper(or plastic) very slowly won't reproduce the waveform properly.
But - what does that mean to me, the speaker buyer? Go big or go home.
General lower limitations for a 3dB response curve which is the half audio hearing point(not exact, but from a book published long ago)
4" = 100hz
5" = 60Hz
6.5" = 45Hz
8" = 33Hz
12" = 18Hz
my old Ferrari had 5" speakers in the doors. It was - wimpy, but of course who drives a Ferrari to listen to the stereo? lolz. Well, anyway I had the door cards off, and figured out that with some trimming and a bit of grinding back there I could actually fit an 8" into the hole. made a WORLD of difference. Physics -- what a bitch.
I can talk about the physics of it, but I'd prolly get banned. Anyway, here's the deal. The lower limitation on the wavelength of the audio you want to reproduce is a non-linear function of the sqrt(dia) of the speaker. So, in layman's terms, smaller speaker, smaller sqrt, smaller wavelength(inverse of freq) limit. Which is why we have woofers and tweeters. It just makes sense that to move a giant round voice coil, and a massive amount of speaker cone at very high frequency sounds like an issue, the converse is also true. Moving a very small voice coil, and a small cone of paper(or plastic) very slowly won't reproduce the waveform properly.
But - what does that mean to me, the speaker buyer? Go big or go home.
General lower limitations for a 3dB response curve which is the half audio hearing point(not exact, but from a book published long ago)
4" = 100hz
5" = 60Hz
6.5" = 45Hz
8" = 33Hz
12" = 18Hz
my old Ferrari had 5" speakers in the doors. It was - wimpy, but of course who drives a Ferrari to listen to the stereo? lolz. Well, anyway I had the door cards off, and figured out that with some trimming and a bit of grinding back there I could actually fit an 8" into the hole. made a WORLD of difference. Physics -- what a bitch.
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Speaker wars. I can't really help on what works by brand or model. But - as has been mentioned, you can't get the kind of sound you want without going big.
I can talk about the physics of it, but I'd prolly get banned. Anyway, here's the deal. The lower limitation on the wavelength of the audio you want to reproduce is a non-linear function of the sqrt(dia) of the speaker. So, in layman's terms, smaller speaker, smaller sqrt, smaller wavelength(inverse of freq) limit. Which is why we have woofers and tweeters. It just makes sense that to move a giant round voice coil, and a massive amount of speaker cone at very high frequency sounds like an issue, the converse is also true. Moving a very small voice coil, and a small cone of paper(or plastic) very slowly won't reproduce the waveform properly.
But - what does that mean to me, the speaker buyer? Go big or go home.
General lower limitations for a 3dB response curve which is the half audio hearing point(not exact, but from a book published long ago)
4" = 100hz
5" = 60Hz
6.5" = 45Hz
8" = 33Hz
12" = 18Hz
my old Ferrari had 5" speakers in the doors. It was - wimpy, but of course who drives a Ferrari to listen to the stereo? lolz. Well, anyway I had the door cards off, and figured out that with some trimming and a bit of grinding back there I could actually fit an 8" into the hole. made a WORLD of difference. Physics -- what a bitch.
I can talk about the physics of it, but I'd prolly get banned. Anyway, here's the deal. The lower limitation on the wavelength of the audio you want to reproduce is a non-linear function of the sqrt(dia) of the speaker. So, in layman's terms, smaller speaker, smaller sqrt, smaller wavelength(inverse of freq) limit. Which is why we have woofers and tweeters. It just makes sense that to move a giant round voice coil, and a massive amount of speaker cone at very high frequency sounds like an issue, the converse is also true. Moving a very small voice coil, and a small cone of paper(or plastic) very slowly won't reproduce the waveform properly.
But - what does that mean to me, the speaker buyer? Go big or go home.
General lower limitations for a 3dB response curve which is the half audio hearing point(not exact, but from a book published long ago)
4" = 100hz
5" = 60Hz
6.5" = 45Hz
8" = 33Hz
12" = 18Hz
my old Ferrari had 5" speakers in the doors. It was - wimpy, but of course who drives a Ferrari to listen to the stereo? lolz. Well, anyway I had the door cards off, and figured out that with some trimming and a bit of grinding back there I could actually fit an 8" into the hole. made a WORLD of difference. Physics -- what a bitch.
So maybe doing some trimming of the rear panels is the way to go?
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Well, I'd prolly go ghetto and do this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-Acoust...kAAOSwQJ5UTIz6
Put it in the back behind the rear seat in some kind of box and aim it up at the rear window. It WILL do the bass job, the rest of the wavelength can be handled as one sees fit with 4" or smaller speakers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-Acoust...kAAOSwQJ5UTIz6
Put it in the back behind the rear seat in some kind of box and aim it up at the rear window. It WILL do the bass job, the rest of the wavelength can be handled as one sees fit with 4" or smaller speakers.
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From personal experience, I would highly recommend MB Quart speakers, Incredible sound in a small space. Consider switching out the amp too...
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