porsche951

Sold at auction to on line bidder for $27,500. Someone is going to be very unhappy. Wonder if buyer has any recourse once he finds out what he bought. Like I said before car is presently running fine. And at $27,500 I would have to guess that buyer is not a re-seller that's close to full retail

alpine003

As long as he stays off these forums, he maybe in ignorant bliss for awhile. That "awhile" is the million dollar question on exactly how long this motor can run without any major symptoms popping up. If he only drives it a few miles every weekend, it could last a long time.

porsche951

Short of a rebuild what would be the new owners best bet? New IMS, drop oil pan, oil changes every week or maybe just keep putting in a new filter and hope for the best?

Oil_Slickrick

Do they get a free 966 T

alpine003

I just went back to the original post and all you mention is that dealer found "shrapnel" in the oil filter. Do you know if the "shrapnel" was ferrous? Was the oil ever sent in for analysis? Any copper found? Did the dealer actually remove the IMS bearing and inspect it? I think based on that, some automatically assume it's the IMS. Bottom line is I think there are some assumptions here.

There's been more than a handful of members here IIRC that's found particles in their oil filter and their motors are still running strong now.

Anywho, if the buyer is a dealer, they can just unload it on an unsuspecting consumer if they find out the motor is toast. This may be the sad reality unfortunately.

porsche951

Don't know if it was ferrous or not. Originally their plan was to just do an oil change and sell it themselves. They saw LOTS of metallic bits on filter and assumed the worst. They put it up for auction and sold it today.

gnat

Ugh. Obviously not honestly marketed if it sold that high

Hopefully (for the new owner) Alp is right, but I think "metal in the oil" is more often than not a very bad thing...

FRUNKenstein

Actually, it sold for $26,300:

2004 PORSCHE 911 AWD CARRERA 4 BLUE 2 6 GAS 6 AWD Y CD CV L 53,521 $26,300

I am going to bookmark this thread in case I ever get foolish enough to seriously consider bidding on a 911 at the auction. I've come close a couple of times, but chickened out.

Now, what we may all be missing is that whatever dealer bought the car can sell it to someone and offer an aftermarket warranty to the buyer. If the buyer gets the warranty, then it will be the warranty company that takes the hit.

alpine003

This is very true and I can imagine with enough hits for engine rebuilds/replacement to the warranty industries for this car, some may wise up and have a prequalification stage as a prerequisite to getting a warranty on the car. It's unlikely but not impossible.

5CHN3LL

Waiting for the "Finally got a C4! Found a low-mileage '04 at auction!" thread...

gnat

FTFY

sweet victory

Hopefully they can test the insurance fraud theory for us.

porsche951

That is mean.

5CHN3LL

FIFYFM

gnat

Well we know it helps your theory about who to buy from