Some 996 owners should have camry's
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This may be my first snarky post. I am tired and grouchy. Then I come on Rennlist to relax and see people post about what a pile of crap the 996 is and they should all be scrapped and it is a waste of money and a depreciating asset, etc, etc.
I am sure the moderators are going to pull this thread, but until then I say to all those people...
Bite Me
I love mine. I have a $40,000 1999 911 and drive it all day every day and love it. I have no regrets. When I think about a do over my thoughts are maybe with all the driving I do I should have got a tip, or maybe I should have got a hard top, or whether Litronics should have been on my list. Not - maybe I should have gotten a 996TT or a 997, etc. If the car needs repaired, which all cars do, I will call the porsche dealer and they will pick it up and leave me with another porsche to drive.
To those of you who don'e get this go get a camry. Has great resale, gets good gas mileage, and is reliable.
I am sure the moderators are going to pull this thread, but until then I say to all those people...
Bite Me
I love mine. I have a $40,000 1999 911 and drive it all day every day and love it. I have no regrets. When I think about a do over my thoughts are maybe with all the driving I do I should have got a tip, or maybe I should have got a hard top, or whether Litronics should have been on my list. Not - maybe I should have gotten a 996TT or a 997, etc. If the car needs repaired, which all cars do, I will call the porsche dealer and they will pick it up and leave me with another porsche to drive.
To those of you who don'e get this go get a camry. Has great resale, gets good gas mileage, and is reliable.
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Preach it. The 996 is sweet. I spent $30K on mine, and I have never regretted a dime of that initial investment nor anything I've spent in the interim years. I still feel like I practically stole it, considering what they cost new (and what new 911's cost now).
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If the car needs repaired, which all cars do, I will call the porsche dealer and they will pick it up and leave me with another porsche to drive.
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" If the car needs repaired, which all cars do, I will call the porsche dealer and they will pick it up and leave me with another porsche to drive." Must be nice? Some of us just don't have a spare $15k+ for a replacement engine job.
For those of us who can't afford the V.I.P. treatment from a Porsche dealer, Rennlist is a wonderful resource. Some forum members have an understandable sensitivity to huge repair expenses caused by any of Jake's 30 modes of failure. The individual problems are not the problem -it is the collateral damage that creates the huge expense. An example for a few M96 engines is the under-specified rod bolts. There was a recent thread that covered the carnage that can cause .I hope this gentle perspective helps you understand people's disappointment when disasters occur. What makes it worse is that much vital engine rebuilding information is not made available to us by Porsche. Simple things like wear tolerance on bearings. So you are left guessing when it would be so easy for Porsche to reveal those specs and help those who support their brand with hard-earned wages .
For those of us who can't afford the V.I.P. treatment from a Porsche dealer, Rennlist is a wonderful resource. Some forum members have an understandable sensitivity to huge repair expenses caused by any of Jake's 30 modes of failure. The individual problems are not the problem -it is the collateral damage that creates the huge expense. An example for a few M96 engines is the under-specified rod bolts. There was a recent thread that covered the carnage that can cause .I hope this gentle perspective helps you understand people's disappointment when disasters occur. What makes it worse is that much vital engine rebuilding information is not made available to us by Porsche. Simple things like wear tolerance on bearings. So you are left guessing when it would be so easy for Porsche to reveal those specs and help those who support their brand with hard-earned wages .
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Not really. Depends on how busy I am and what the weather outside temp is. I can't think of a more expensive repair than an engine and I've been there, done that, and even got a T-shirt along the way. Really, it's a cool shirt. If it goes again I will fix it again unless there is another car I want more.
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What makes it worse is that much vital engine rebuilding information is not made available to us by Porsche. Simple things like wear tolerance on bearings. So you are left guessing when it would be so easy for Porsche to reveal those specs and help those who support their brand with hard-earned wages .
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"Rennlist is a wonderful resource. Some forum members have an understandable sensitivity to huge repair expenses caused by any of Jake's 30 modes of failure. .I hope this gentle perspective helps you understand people's disappointment when disasters occur. What makes it worse is that much vital engine rebuilding information is not made available to us by Porsche. Simple things like wear tolerance on bearings. So you are left guessing when it would be so easy for Porsche to reveal those specs and help those who support their brand with hard-earned wages .
It's a Porsche 911. Let me say that again. Porsche. 911. Who on earth buys one of these because its a bargain? You buy it becasue it is a work of art you can drive. If you are looking for reliable, low cost transportation, then a 911 is not for you. I can't think of a 911 ever, that is relaible, low cost transportation.
I see the posts aking for all the specs on the engines. And I agree they should be available. But they are not. As the prices continue to drop and more get torn apart and worked on these numbers will be available. But as of now they are not. And this is well known.
Sorry. If I am offending anyone.
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Also the way I see it is the cost of entry has gotten cheap enough that people jump in but do so without a contingency fund or fail to realize the "cost of ownership" is something entirely different. I think it is those people that can be the most vocal and complain the most.
It's like a 308 or 328gts, a lot of peeps can afford it these days but they huff and puff when they find out a major engine-out tuneup is going to cost them $8k.
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The 996 is awesome.
*Not too pricy so an average Joe like me can enjoy one.
*Very easy to DIY (compared to many turbo jap cars I've had)
*95% of people have NO IDEA The car is 14 years old. Chicks don't know the difference between this and a GT3.
*puts a smirk on my face everytime I'm in its presence
*it is a beautiful work of art. Even though it's a "lowly" lil Carerra
*Not too pricy so an average Joe like me can enjoy one.
*Very easy to DIY (compared to many turbo jap cars I've had)
*95% of people have NO IDEA The car is 14 years old. Chicks don't know the difference between this and a GT3.
*puts a smirk on my face everytime I'm in its presence
*it is a beautiful work of art. Even though it's a "lowly" lil Carerra
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The great thing about 996 maintenance...If you need to take your "regular" car to the shop you come back happy because the maintenance appeared to be so cheap!
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Well, I should chime in here - first time Porsche owner, but long time car nut and serial car flipper have played extensively with Camaro's, Corvettes and BMW's and dabbled in some other things. Mostly a DIY guy, I have built engines, street cars, hot rods, race cars - you name it. So typical maintenance and repair doesn't scare me. Nor does the cost associated with a Porsche.
But what got me into the game was really the low cost of entry. I sold a C6 Corvette for just under $30K and wanted to get into a much cheaper "fun" car that could also serve as my half time daily driver and put some $$ into the bank for some other priorities. '99 C2 fit the bill perfectly for me, and so far I just love it. Sure doesn't feel like a 15 year old car to me, and it will get all of the preventative maintenance it needs under my watch.
And you know, I was totally cross-shopping with Camry's and totally almost got one - but what fun would that be? I wouldn't have projects to keep me busy in the garage!!
I just love German cars from the 90's and early 2000's - those are also my favorite era from BMW, and currently have two of those in the stable as well. Sure, those cars need some repairing too, but they are a joy to drive and own overall. I am pretty sure I will feel the same about the 996, I'm only a month in but so far I really like it!!
But what got me into the game was really the low cost of entry. I sold a C6 Corvette for just under $30K and wanted to get into a much cheaper "fun" car that could also serve as my half time daily driver and put some $$ into the bank for some other priorities. '99 C2 fit the bill perfectly for me, and so far I just love it. Sure doesn't feel like a 15 year old car to me, and it will get all of the preventative maintenance it needs under my watch.
And you know, I was totally cross-shopping with Camry's and totally almost got one - but what fun would that be? I wouldn't have projects to keep me busy in the garage!!
I just love German cars from the 90's and early 2000's - those are also my favorite era from BMW, and currently have two of those in the stable as well. Sure, those cars need some repairing too, but they are a joy to drive and own overall. I am pretty sure I will feel the same about the 996, I'm only a month in but so far I really like it!!